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The Avalyn Digest Volume 2 Issue 14
The Avalyn Digest Sun Aug 17, 1997 Volume 2 : Issue 14
There are 23 messages totalling 622 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. any news??
2. Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork (5)
3. Sorry ,I have a correction to make about new member from L.A.
4. Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone (2)
5. (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY (2)
6. extra S/T 12" & In Mind Remixes 12"
7. New member from L.A. (guitar stuff and bootlegs)
8. others?
9. field mice auction (and others)
10. Locust "Morning Light"
11. Slowdive Video needed.
12. lsd do mojave
13. Flying Saucer Attack
14. bootlegs
15. About a couple of songs..
16. Beach Song/Take Me Down
17. Secert Shine - Unreleased 7" sale
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:23:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baker <balm@hwcn.org>
Subject: any news??
hey there....
i used to be on this list for quite a while... but now i am
not... could you give me the low down on any news pertaining to the
upcoming mojave releases.... cheers.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 15:01:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork
Hi!,
Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The version
on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on `Best of
Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am sure that the
`BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix! Neils vocals on the
verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on the chorus, she seems more
prominant, it`s a better version! Also the `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end
sound different. Is this the single version? Can anybody shed any light?
Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of completes
the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image is on `Slowdive` and
`Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were taken?
Regards Tony
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 15:55:38 -0700
From: Joseph Moreno <jjmoreno@ucla.edu>
Subject: Sorry ,I have a correction to make about new member from L.A.
I mistakenly mistyped my e-mail. My correct e-mail is: jjmoreno@ucla.edu
Hope to hear from all of you out there about the topics I spoke of
last... I apoligize to the moderator of this list for my booboo.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 02:03:54 -0700
From: Kage <md13015@dredd.swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone
>> You out there who's got records by these bands!
>> Jessamine, Crescent, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone.
>> Please mail me all info on the record (year, tracknames,
>> cataloguenumbers, titles........).Also tourdates and news and info
>> bout the bands.
>> Thank you!
>
> I have the Jessamine album and both of the Labradford albums. I also have
> the Movietone album. I'll try to post all the info tonight or tomorrow
> sometime.
>
> BTW...the new Labradford album is GREAT!!!
Hi there!
I just wondered what kind of music those bands play.
M. Mattsson
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:38:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: FlowyrTear@aol.com
Subject: Re: (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY
In a message dated 97-07-23 13:05:46 EDT, Moonstar9@aol.com writes:
<< NME that, at long last, the band are ready to release new material >>
thank god~~~~i thought he overdosed or something hanging around too much with
sonic boom.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:39:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: FlowyrTear@aol.com
Subject: Re: (verve) REAL MBV NEWS FROM NME- HOOOOORAY
In a message dated 97-07-23 13:05:46 EDT, Moonstar9@aol.com writes:
<< But we've definitely got enough for an EP. >>
i would hope so by now.
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claire De Leon! <eleven@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: extra S/T 12" & In Mind Remixes 12"
Hello everyone,
Well, I have been searching for the _Slowdive_ e.p. for YEARS now,
and finally came across TWO copies of it! I wasn't sure if I would get
both, but indeed that has happened. So obviously one of the copies is up
for sale. But in an auction-type please - PLEASE don't ask me to quote a
price! YOU must do so! :) I would like to pay the bills this
month...(sorry to anyone this offends)
Also, I have the In Mind remixes on CD, but also just came across
the same on 12" - if someone wants to buy the 12" version, please let me
know about that also.
Thanks!
Daniel
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:45:20 -0700
From: M Svensson <mats.svensson@mbox302.swipnet.se>
Subject: Re: Crescent, Jessamine, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone
>>> You out there who's got records by these bands!
>>> Jessamine, Crescent, Labradford, Magnog, Movietone.
>>
>> I have the Jessamine album and both of the Labradford albums. I also have
>> the Movietone album. I'll try to post all the info tonight or tomorrow
>> sometime.
>>
>> BTW...the new Labradford album is GREAT!!!
>
> Hi there!
> I just wondered what kind of music those bands play.
Space rock, like Flying saucer attack.....
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:41:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: ntvan@audumla.mdacc.tmc.edu (Van T. Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork
Actually, I don't think the album version is the same as the EP version
for Catch the Breeze. One sounds remixed/tweaked slightly so that the
high background vocal is slightly louder in the mix. Anyone??
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:59:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Primarygrl@aol.com
Subject: Re: New member from L.A. (guitar stuff and bootlegs)
In a message dated 97-07-29 08:28:06 EDT, you write:
<< One last thing, I'm sure
alot of you have heard both Avalyn I and II. How are they different? Are
they different songs entirely or are they different versions or what???
Hope to hear from all you out there!
Joseph Moreno: jjmoreno@ucle.edu >>
Avalyn I and II are the same beautifully symphonic songs, just different
versions... They differ from one another in that Avalyn I contains rachel's
vocals and II has none.
PG
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 06:59:06 PDT
From: "michaelnicki barrett" <tedium@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork
> Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The
> version on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on
> `Best of Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am
> sure that the `BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix!
> Neils vocals on the verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on
> the chorus, she seems more prominant, it`s a better version! Also the
> `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end sound different. Is this the single
> version? Can anybody shed any light?
>
> Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of
> completes the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image
> is on `Slowdive` and `Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were
> taken?
>
> Regards Tony
Hi tony
I'm pretty shure that mornigrise is a pic of what looks like cliffs??
Hope it's a help
Michael
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:48:51 -0700
From: sand-in-your-pants <sfg@poboxes.com>
Subject: others?
Please excuse my naivete, but I have been a slowdive follower only since
this year. I have just finished getting the three full-length CDs, which
I love.
What's next? I don't know what there is out there. I've heard of
blue day, what is it? A collection of all singles? b-sides? neither?
Are there other gems which I have overlooked?
suggestions welcomed.
sfg@poboxes.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:10:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Claire De Leon! <eleven@grove.ufl.edu>
Subject: field mice auction (and others)
Crossposting, crossposting....sorry kiddies. But here's a first list of
probably two or three to come....old Danno's broke...:( Let me know if
anyone is interested in something. Sorry for doing this in a public
forum...
Items for Auction
_______________________________________________
Field Mice-Coastal LP
Field Mice-So Said Kay 10"
Field Mice-Missing the Moon 12"
Chapterhouse-Pearl 7"
V/A-Bristol vs. L.A. 7" (with Amp, 3rd Eye Foundation, Summer Hits, )
Brighter-Laurel 10"
Broadcast-Booklovers Duophonic 12"
Summer hits-Orgasm 7" (forgot the title!)
Teenbeat 100 7" (10 songs...10 minutes)
Stereolab-Laminations promo CD
Well, that's all I can think of for now. Please be kind to my records,
should you acquire them - they are very dear to me. *sniff!* I am no
longer a subscriber to the list, so personal e-mails only will get you a
response. There may also be another list soon when I can go through my
collection again.....
Thanks,
Daniel
(eleven@grove.ufl.edu)
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:18:28 +1000 (EST)
From: Anthony <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork
>Is it me or are there two different mixes of `Catch the Breeze`?? The version
>on the `Just for a Day` album differs to the version found on `Best of
>Independant 20`. I have listened over and over again and am sure that the
>`BOI20` version has a different vocal and guitar mix! Neils vocals on the
>verses seem different and when Rachel comes in on the chorus, she seems more
>prominant, it`s a better version! Also the `Skybound`TM guitairs at the end
>sound different. Is this the single version? Can anybody shed any light?
I stand by you and definately agree that there are two different
mixes of Catch The Breeze. The one on the EP has the backing vocals (the
higher pithed line) up louder, and overall has a fuller sound (I prefer that
mix).
>Also, what about the artwork on the early e.ps...wow! It sort of completes
>the sound of Slowdive. Does anyone know what the image is on `Slowdive` and
>`Morningrise`? Or where the photographs were taken?
For some time I have thought that the Morningrise picture is a close
up, possibly from under a microscope of some kind of metal or organic
substance. It looks like sandstone. Has anyone noticed that the original
pressing of the Morningrise EP has a slight colour difference from thaat of
the one that was recently re-released?
Anthony.
932228@bud.swin.edu.au
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:01:52 -0500
From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" <iboronen@students.wisc.edu>
Subject: Locust "Morning Light"
Hi, gang
this album is mentioned here for two, no, three reasons:
Neil sings on one of the songs,
a man behind Locust (Mark vanHoen) is a long-time Seefeel engineer and
collaborator, Seefeel-Slowdive connection is well known,
three-it's a very beautiful piece of music.
For starters, short teaser from riouxs@aol.com:
***rioux's recommendation of the month***
LOCUST - Morning light CD (apollo) $16.90
This has been described as This Mortal Coil meets Massive Attack -
and the comparisons could not be more spot on. At times the mood
hits the rare aire of the Blue Nile's _hats_. This is a solid
absolutely beautiful record composed by Mark Van Hoen and
features vocals by Annie Williams, Zoe Niblett, & Neil Halstead.
earlier Locust material is a more dark claustrophobic high-quality
intellegent techno. Lately he started collaborating with various
vocalists (mostly female) with the result being more romantic,
atmospheric string-laden compositions. Sure as hell sounds like This
Mortal Coil, right? Well, the sound of the record is less "4AD", more
trip-hoppy, but in the mood, not the techniques. Soulful vocal tracks
are mixed with rather minimal ghostly instrumentals, reminiscent of
later Bark Psychosis, Talk Talk and "Pygmalion". Neil's singing is OK,
but doesn't stand out much as most of the songs are as great.
Conveniently included is material from Annie Williams earlier "Folie"
EP on Apollo.
for dreampoppres I would remind that the new Radiohead is great, new
Spiritualized album is less droney, more Boo Radleyish, and new
Catherine Wheel (more ballad-inclined) is coming out very soon.
salute
Boroda
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Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:56:02 -0400
From: Gordon Brown <jbrown@mulberry.com>
Subject: Slowdive Video needed.
Hello,
Does anyone have any Slowdive or Mojave 3 videos they would like to trade. I
desperately need the promo vids. I have the following videos I can tape in
exchange:
Poetic Frenzy ex 8 min
Catch the Breeze ex 5 min (this is the US version without the
band, just scenery scenes--pretty dull)
Paard Van Troje, Den Haag 23.02.92 vg- 55
I also have most of the Stereolab videos, as well as some TV performances.
All the My Bloody Valentine videos and a MBV concert:
ULU, London 16.02.89 vg- 60
I use NTSC.
Hopefully someone out there is interested in getting something going.
See ya,
Gord
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 19:39:22 +0600
From: susan marie mcgowan <smmcgowa@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: lsd do mojave
hello everyone...
just thought that this little chunklet of info might be of interest --
midway through love spirals downwards' set on friday night at the projekt
fest in chicago, they did a cover of mojave's 'candle song'...theirs was
quite an excellent rendition, with suzanne perry's incredible vocals and
ryan lum's quiet acoustic strumming...once ryan started playing, suzanne
prefaced it with a comment something like, "you guys know who this is,
right?", though i would think that it must have gone almost entirely
unnoticed and unappreciated by the majority of the audience, with the
exception of myself, fellow fest-goers bryan and mike, and the one guy down
in front who yelled 'mercy'! at the end!
just thought that i'd pass that along...
susan.
p.s....and no, i didn't record it, very unfortunately... :(
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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:36:47 +1000
From: lhucvjm@LUSTA.LATROBE.EDU.AU
Subject: Flying Saucer Attack
I couldn't help myself. I'm a big fan of Flying Saucer Attack and I
thought I would just add some more items to "(sara's)" (15/7/97) list.
If you like Slowdive, particularly "Pygmalion", then chances are you'll
definitely like F.S.A.
Readily available in addition to "Further" and "Chorus" and that live C.D.
are:
"Flying Saucer Attack" (self titled)
My Dreaming Hill
A Silent Tide
Moonset
Make Me Dream
Wish
Popol Vuh 2
The Drowners *
Still
Popol Vuh 1
This Season Is Ours
(Running time: 50:18)
"Distance"
Oceans
Standing Stone
Crystal Shade
Instrumental Wish
Distance
November Mist
Soaring High
Oceans 2
(R.T.: a bit over 40 minutes)
"Outdoor Miner/Psychic Driving"
Outdoor Miner **
Psychic Driving
Land Beyond The Sun
Everywhere Was Everything
(R.T.: about 15 mins.)
"Sally Free and Easy e.p."
Sally Free And Easy ***
Three Seas
(R.T.: about 15 mins. the title track goes for 7 mins.)
"Flying Saucer Attack*Roy Montgomery"
Goodbye
...And Goodbye
The Whole Day
(R.T.:about 23 mins. (I think))
The last single listed is quite different from any of their other stuff.
Well not really different, just more extreme. Much more experimental
and Krautrock-ish. But it's still excellent. But then I'm biased because
I"m also a big fan of Krautrock!
Footnotes:
* This is a cover of Suede's first single. It's very good. It's also
rather hillarious hearing Dave Pierce's (F.S.A. vocalist) impersonation of
Brett Anderson!
** This is a cover of a Wire single. It's very short. But the single is
worth buying just for "Psychic Driving".
*** This is a cover of a Pentangle song. It's excellent, although not what
the first time F.S.A. listener should be listening to.
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 23:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Flwr2hide@aol.com
Subject: bootlegs
where do you know of that i can find these bootlegs of slowdive shows
and are they any good
cheers
steve
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:53:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "(sara)" <sjohns32@d.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Catch the Breeze @ e.p. Artwork
i don't know if anyones replied to this yet-i'm so behind in my mail...but
here's my $.02
i don't know what ep you're talking about. but the version on holding our
breath(i don't think you would call this an ep, but maybe i'm wrong?) is
definitely different. there is this strange harmonizing that i don't
think is there in the album.. anyway, its very good (of course!)
sara
...Actually, I don't think the album version is the same as the EP version
...for Catch the Breeze. One sounds remixed/tweaked slightly so that the
...high background vocal is slightly louder in the mix. Anyone??
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Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:20:37 -0400
From: rboge@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: About a couple of songs..
> Hi there...
> I want to know if anyone in this list have some concerts of Slowdive
> from May 1992. I have a problem with some tracklists and I want to
> know if anybody knows the complete tracklist of 17, 18, and 19
> May/1992 concerts. There are two songs in those concerts that I can't
> recognize.. I think they're inedit songs... thanks for all, any
> information will be cool...
they're all similar
5-19
slowdive
spanish air
bleed
catch the breeze
*
morningrise
she calls
avalyn
5-18
slowdive
spanish air
bleed
catch the breeze
*
...I'm still listening but the set lists are very close.
* = at the moment I can't remember the name of this song.
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:17:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: ntvan@audumla.mdacc.tmc.edu (Van T. Nguyen)
Subject: Beach Song/Take Me Down
Does anyone know out there if there's a copy of Beach Song/ Take Me Down
on CD? Someone out there must have cut a CD-R with these songs...
onnow: Broadcast - Work and Non-Work
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:38:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: Secert Shine - Unreleased 7" sale
Hello.
Do you remember Secret Shine (of Sarah Records fame) that brought you the
beautiful shoegazy `Loveblind` and many other delights. Well it is possible
to order a 7" called `Wish Coming True` b/w `Wasted Away` which was never
released!!!! (the B side is excellent)
The 7" can be purchased from:-
Shine Mansion
10 Cossham Road
St. George
Bristol
England
BS5 8DL
The cost is (pounds)2-50 (inc p&p) for the UK
(pounds)3-00 (inc p&p) for the rest of the world
PLEASE MAKE CHEQUES PAYABLE TO TIM MORRIS
Although Secret Shine have officially called it a day, they recorded many
`shoegazy` tracks since.Their later work mixed skybound harmonies of a male
and female vocalist backed with reverb guitairs. While they are best known
for `Loveblind` the track `Take Me Slowly` `Greater Than God` e.p. and the
album `Untouched` are highly recommended. The main members of the band are
now in a new band called Junkie who have released a 5 track CD single which
is available at the above address at #4-50UK #5 R.O.W.
Secret Shine Discography
After Years Sarah 53 Sep 1991
Unbearable Turn07 Sep 1991
Take Me Slowly (On the `Birth of the True
Compilation - Sugarfrost Records) Frosty2 Apr 1992
Ephemeral Sarah 61 Apr 1992
Loveblind Sarah 71CD Mar 1993
Untouched - featuring Suck Me Down/ Sarah 615CD Apr 1993
Temporal/Spellbound/So Close I Come/
Into The Ether/Toward the Sky/Underworld/
Sun Warmed Water
Greater Than God E.P. Sarah 615CD May 1994
Each To Each Other Swirl01 Flexi May 1994
Wish Coming True/Wasted Away SpoilSSS001 Unreleased
Regards Antony
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