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AIList Digest           Thursday, 18 Sep 1986     Volume 4 : Issue 184 

Today's Topics:
Correction - Conference on Office Information Systems,
AI Tools - Interlisp vs. C,
Queries - NL Grammar & Unix Software,
Education - AI Schools,
AI Tools - Turbo Prolog

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 86 14:13:52 cdt
From: preece%ccvaxa@gswd-vms.ARPA (Scott E. Preece)
Subject: Correction - Conference on Office Information Sys

> From: rba@petrus.bellcore.com (Robert B. Allen)
> Subject: Conference on Office Information Systems - Brown U.
>
>
> ACM CONFERENCE ON OFFICE INFORMATION SYSTEMS
> October 6-8, 1968, Providence, R.I.
^
Gee, I didn't join the ACM until 1970, but I didn't think
they had invented "Office Information Systems" then...

--
scott preece
gould/csd - urbana
uucp: ihnp4!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!preece
arpa: preece@gswd-vms

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Date: 16 Sep 86 13:07 EDT
From: Denber.wbst@Xerox.COM
Subject: Re: Reimplementing in C

"Such things are very awkward, if not impossible to express in the
typical AI languages"

Well, maybe I've been using an atypical AI language, but Interlisp-D has
all that stuff - byte I/O, streams, timers, whatever. It's real e-z to
use. Check it out.

- Michel

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Date: Thu, 14 Aug 86 11:58 EDT
From: EDMUNDSY%northeastern.edu@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA
Subject: Looking for Production Rules for English Grammar

Does anyone know where can I find the information (or existed results) of
transforming English (or a simplified subset) grammar into production rules of
regular grammar, context-free or context sensitive grammar. For example,
Sentences --> Noun Verb Noun etc.
If anyone gets any information on that, I would appreciate if you can leave me
a pointer for those information. Thanks!! I can be contacted by any of the
following means:
NET: EDMUNDSY@NORTHEASTERN.EDU
ADD: Sy, Bon-Kiem
Northeastern University
Dept. ECE DA 409
Boston, MA 02115
Phone: (617)-437-5055
Bon Sy

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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 86 18:32:06 edt
From: brant@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Brant A. Cheikes)
Subject: Unix Consultant references?

I'm looking for the most recent reports by the group working
on the Unix Consultant project at UC Berkeley. Does anybody
know what that is, and is there a network address to which
report requests can be sent? The ref I was given was UCB
report CSD 87/303, but I'm not sure if it's available or even
recent. Any information in this vein would be appreciated.

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Date: 12 Sep 86 00:32:34 GMT
From: micropro!ptsfa!jeg@lll-crg.arpa (John Girard)
Subject: AI tools/products in UNIX


Greetings,

I am looking for any information I can get on Artificial Intelligence
tools and products in the UNIX environment. I will compile and publish
the results in net.ai. Please help me out with any of the following:

versions of LISP and PROLOG running in unix

expert system shells available in unix

expert system and natural language products that have been developed
in the unix environment, both available now and in R&D, especially ones
that relate to unix problem domains (sys admin, security).

Reply to: John Girard
415-823-1961
[ihnp4,dual,cbosgd,nike,qantel,bellcore]!ptsfa!jeg

P.S. Very interested in things that run on less horsepower than a SUN.

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Date: Sat, 13 Sep 86 13:44:47 pdt
From: ucsbcsl!uncle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: request for core nl system code


We are looking for a core nl system which we can tailor and
extend. There is as yet little comp.ling activity at UCSB,
so we have no local sources. We are interested in developing
a system which can be used in foreign language education, hence
we would need a system in which the "syntactic components"
are such that we could incrementally mung the system into
speaking german or french or russian without having to
redesign the system. my knowledge in this area is fuzzy
(not 'Fuzzy(tm)' etc, just fuzzy!) .

I have read a little about systems such as the Phran component of the
Wilensky et al project called unix-consultant, and i
understand that the approach taken there is susceptible
to generalization to other languages by entering a new
data-base of pattern-action pairs (i.e. an EXACT parse of
a syntactically admissable sentence is not required) Unfortunately,
Berekeley CS is not currently giving access to components of that system.

Does anyone have pointers to available code for systems
that fall into that part of the syntax-semantics spectrum?
Is it, in fact, reasonable for us to seek such a system as
a tool, or are we better advised to start with car and cdr ????

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Date: 19 Aug 86 19:29:25 GMT
From: decvax!dartvax!kapil@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Kapil Khetan)
Subject: Where can one do an off-campus Ph.D. in AI/ES


After graduating from Dartmouth, with an MS in
Computer & Information Science, I have been residing and working
in New York City.

I am interested in continuing education and think
Expert Systems is a nice field to learn more about. I took
a ten week course in which we dabbled in Prolog and M1.

If any of you know of a college in the area (Columbia,
NYU, PACE) which has something like it, or any other college
anywhere else which has an off-campus program, please hit the 'r' key.

Thank-you.

Kapil Khetan

Chemical Bank, 55 Water St., New York, NY 10041

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Date: 25 Aug 86 18:27:08 GMT
From: ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!bri5@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Brill)
Subject: Grad Schools

Hello. I am planning on entering graduate school next year. I was wondering
what schools are considered the best in Artificial Intelligence (specifically
in language comprehension and learning). I would be especially interested
in your opinions as to which schools would be considered the top 10.
Thank you very much.

Eric Brill

ps, if there is anybody else out there interested in the above, send me mail,
and I will forward all interesting replies.

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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 86 15:35 CDT
From: PADIN%FNALB.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: ADVICE ON ENTERING THE AI COMMUNITY


As a newcomer to the AI arena, I am compelled to ask some
fundamentally novice (and,as such,sometimes ridiculous) sounding
questions. Nonetheless, here goes.

If one were to attempt to enter the AI field, what are the
basic requirements; what are some special requirements?
With a BS im physics, is further schooling mandatory? Are there
particular schools which I should consider or ones I should
avoid? Are there books which I MUST read!!? As a 29 year old
with a Math and Physics background, am I hopelessly over-the-hill
for such musings to become a reality? Are there questions which I
should be asking?

If you care to answer in private I can be reached at:


PADIN@FNALB.BITNET

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Date: 2 Sep 86 21:44:00 GMT
From: pyrnj!mirror!prism!mattj@CAIP.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject: Re: Grad Schools


Eric Brill:

Here is my own personal ranking of general AI programs:

Stanford
MIT
Carnegie-Mellon
UIllinois@Urbana
URochester

Also good: UMaryland, Johns Hopkins, UMass@Amherst, ... can't think now.

[...]
- Matthew Jensen

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Date: 6 Sep 86 02:52:06 GMT
From: ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews@UW-BEAVER.ARPA (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: Re: Grad Schools (Rochester?)


I've heard that Rochester has quite a good AI / logic
programming program, and it definitely has some good people...
but can anyone tell me what it's like to LIVE in Rochester?
Or is the campus far enough from Rochester that it doesn't
matter? Please respond (r or R) to me rather than to the net.

Adv(merci)ance,
--Jamie.
...!seismo!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews
"Hundred million bottles washed up on the shore"

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Date: 3 Sep 86 21:20:31 GMT
From: mcvax!prlb2!lln-cs!pv@seismo.css.gov (Patrick Vandamme)
Subject: Bug in Turbo Prolog

I am testing the `famous' Turbo Prolog Software and, after all the good things
that I heard about it, I was very surprised at having problems with the first
large program I tried. I give here this program. It finds all the relations
between a person and his family. But for some people, it answers with a lot
of strange characters. I think there must be a dangling pointer somewhere.
Note that this happens only with large programs !

Have someone the same result ?

(for the stange characters, try with "veronique").

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
/*
+-----------------------------------------------------+
| Programme de gestion d'une base de donnees |
| de relations familiales. |
+-----------------------------------------------------+
P. Vandamme - Unite Info - UCL - Aout 1986
*/

[Deleted due to length. See following message for an explanation
of the problem. -- KIL]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Patrick Vandamme

Unite d'Informatique UUCP : (prlb2)lln-cs!pv
Universite Catholique de Louvain Phone: +32 10 43 24 15
Place Sainte-Barbe, 2 Telex: 59037 UCL B
B-1348 Louvain-La-Neuve Eurokom: Patrick Vandamme UCL
Belgium Fax : +32 10 41 56 47

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Date: 8 Sep 86 23:08:05 GMT
From: clyde!cbatt!cbuxc!cbuxb!cbrma!clh@CAIP.RUTGERS.EDU (C.Harting)
Subject: Re: Bug in Turbo Prolog


I purchased Turbo Prolog Friday night, and immediately tried to compile the
GeoBase program on my Tandy 1000 (384K). I could not even create a .OBJ file
on my machine, so I compiled it on a 640K AT&T PC6300. Caveat No. 1: large
programs need large amounts of memory. I compiled Patrick's "programme de
gestion" to disk and it ran flawlessly (I think -- this is my first lesson in
French!). BUT when compiled to memory, I got the same errors as Patrick.
Caveat No. 2: compile large programs to disk and run standalone. And, Caveat
No. 3: leave out as many memory-resident programs as you can stand when
booting the machine to run Turbo Prolog.
'Nuff said?

===============================================================================
Chris Harting "Many are cold, few are frozen."
AT&T Network Systems Columbus, Ohio
The Path (?!?): cbosgd!cbrma!clh

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Date: 11 Sep 86 18:40:05 GMT
From: john@unix.macc.wisc.edu (John Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Re: Bug in Turbo Prolog

> Xref: uwmacc net.ai:1941 net.lang.prolog:528
> Summary: How to get around it.


I got the "Programme de Gestion de Base de Donnees" to work fine... on an
AT with a meg of memory. I think Patrick Vandamme just ran out of memory,
cause his code is immaculate.

John E. Jacobsen
University of Wisconsin -- Madison Academic Computing Center

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 86 17:26 PDT
From: jan cornish <cornish@RUSSIAN.SPA.Symbohics.COM>
Subject: Turbo Prolog


I've heard some chilling things about Turbo Prolog. Such as

1) The programmer must not only declare each predicate, but also whether
each parameter to the predicate (not correct terminology) is input
or output. This means you can't write relational predicates like
grandfather.

2) The backtracking is not standard.

3) "You can do any thing in Turbo Prolog that you can do in Turbo Pascal"

I want to hear from the LP community on Turbo Prolog as to it's ultimate
merit. Something beyond the dismissive flames.

Thanks in advance,

Jan

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