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                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 472 

Sunday, September 8th 1991

Today's Topics:

Re: Ussr
Re: How Old Are The 'greys'?
Missing Maidens
Re: Hudson Valley Tape
Hudson Valley Tape [3/3]
Blue Grass Crop Circle (part 1)
Re: How Old Are The 'greys'?
Upcoming Shows
Re: VISIT and questions
forwarded mail
Strange Radio Signals From Nearby Stars ???
Re: Visit And Questions
Greys and Glossaries
Re: Epilepsy & Dogs
Re: Hudson Valley Tape
Strange radio signals from nearby stars ???
Project VISIT

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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Re: Ussr
Date: 3 Sep 91 21:10:00 GMT

Danny Brandenburg said:

> I would also like to know how articles in UFO Magazine
> get there. I mean, are the articles submitted by anyone or are their
> professional writers that are employed (no contracted) by UFO Magazine?
> Also, what are the backgrounds of the writers (ie. scientists, fiction
> writers, new agers, psychologists...)?

Danny, the way stories "get there" is by submissions, writers that were
contracted, people wanting to write about the UFO field and researched their
topic, "names" in the UFO field, and yes Psychologists, Medical Doctors,
researchers, former military personal, ministers, police officers, and I guess
somewhere along the line, there may have been a baker or candle stick maker in
there.....<G> Do we do "fiction"? Nope, we do not. Hope this answered your
question.

Don

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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Re: How Old Are The 'greys'?
Date: 3 Sep 91 21:13:00 GMT

In a statement to Jim Speiser:

> no> I have in my posession a comic book dated April, 1967 (Flying
> no> Saucers,

and Jim said:

> That is a VERY important find, Chris. I don't know of anything else
> going back that far with a description that close.
>
> Of course, now Phil Klass will say that anyone who describes the Grays
> thus just HAS to have read that comic book, and have it buried in their
> subconscious.

Ok, but do not forget that John Fuller had already written his book on the
Betty and Barney Hill case. Discriptions of the greys were
included. Could the drawings of the greys been taken from that?

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From: Don.Ecker@p0.f3.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Don Ecker)
Subject: Missing Maidens
Date: 5 Sep 91 19:20:00 GMT

To All;

The UFO phenomenon is so vast that someone researching this mystery
can become lost in the huge amount of data that surfaces. Various
newspapers carry strange stories from time to time, but as a rule
I have never found them to print the stranger aspects of the UFO
enigma, with exceptions now and again, ie. the animal mutes.
However that is not always true. The following item was given to me
by former Capt. Guy Kirkwood U.S.A.F. Kirkwood, for those of you
who do not know him, was part of a U.S.A.F. squadron in the mid
1950's that was a part of three missions to intercept and
photograph airborne flights of "saucers" over Utah and Idaho. The
news article (actually a letter to a friend of Kirkwood's) ran in the
San Diego Reader on June 6, 1991. The letter was sent by The
Honorable Dick Carlson, the United States Ambassador to the
Seychelles, to his and Kirkwood's friend, Mr. Bud Ertle, a
businessman in San Diego. Beginning with some homey type items, the
letter ends up posing some very strange occurrences that might -
just might point up what has been happening in other parts of the
globe in reference to UFOs, abductions, mutilations, and missing
persons.

Last but not least, this is F or Y our I nformation.

by Don Ecker

*****************************************************************
>From the files of UFO Magazine

>From The San Diego Reader
June 6, 1991
Reprinted to the ParaNet Information Service
This may be copied providing this heading remains intact.
All Rights Reserved

From: The Honorable Dick Carlson
United States Ambassador to the Seychelles
United States Embassy
Mahe, Seychelle Islands

Wednesday

Dear Bud,

Patty and I have been giggling our fannies off over the videotapes
you sent us. You are quite right that Hedgecock's face looks like
the surface of the moon. I remember how back in '84 he always
airbrushed his face on the campaign literature and used pictures of
me looking like the fat dork who comes to clean the septic tank.

I give this Ross-Hedgecock Report six months. After that he'll be
lucky if he can do intros for the 11:00 news. The Ross lady's a
peach though.

Looking at ol' Pockmarks reminds me of when I was at KGO-TV in
Frisco in the 60's. We had a weatherman with a raspberry birthmark
the shape of a pineapple covering one side of his face. At KGO this
was OK because he always kept that side to the weather map. Then
when a station in Dago decided to take him on as an anchorman, he
tried covering up the mark with this special makeup, but it melted
under the video lights and that was the end of this guy's career.
Last I heard he was selling Volvos in National City.

You ask if things are getting lonely out here in the Seychelles.
Not on your life. Just the other day we got a communique from State
that our Vice President, Danny Quayle, would be seeing us soon when
he makes his goodwill tour of the Indian Ocean in early '93. If you
can make the visit I'll match you up with Danny for golf. Something
to tell your grandchildren.

TOP SECRET/EYES ONLY DEPT:

Keep this under your hat, but we're having a lot of UFO sightings
in our neck of the world these days. As you know, I'm skeptical
about flying saucers, but if I believed in aliens--and I don't
(except maybe for that little Mexican cutie who kept house for Bill
Cleator)--then I'd have to say that they seem to have chosen the
Seychelles as their new landing pad. The thing is reaching crisis
proportions because native maidens have been disappearing at the
rate of two or three a week, and the rumor among the local people
is that the girls are being whisked away by the aliens for genetic
engineering experiments. (Where do they get these ideas? in my day
we just supposed people were being eaten--you know, like in The
Twilight Zone.)

These little people in the islands are very excitable, of course,
but one of the girls who disappeared was the daughter of the
national spice monopoly's head honcho. Also mysteriously vanished:
a hundred crates of coriander. Maybe Rod Serling was right all
along.

Patty and I keep our camcorder at the ready in case we spot any
aliens, but there's been nothing definitive as yet. If I can sell
an exclusive to CNN it'll be the biggest scoop since I broke the
Renee Richards thing back in '76 when I was with KABC.

Patty says to tell you to look in the Kitty Kelley book and see if
either of us is in the index. We went skinny-dipping with Ron and
Nancy once at Lake Havasu but maybe that's not lurid enough to
write about. Patty and I send our love to Paige and the kids.

Yours,

(signature)

Dick

END OF FILE

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From: Doug.Rogers@p0.f1.n606.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Rogers)
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley Tape
Date: 2 Sep 91 21:56:07 GMT

Jim...

I'd appreciate your cross posting this reply to our associate Maury in the
"Science" echo, as I don't read that one...

Maury,

I'd like to thank you for the best humor I've read in years.

Your taking of Jim to task re the Hudson Valley business is hysterical.

Oh????? You were SERIOUS in you assertions? Well, perhaps there are a few
items that we need to clear up.

I find it fascinating that you are well enough versed in aircraft
identification to identify the proported aircraft in the "genuine" tape as
152's and a 182. Especially in the face of the inability of the analysts at
JPL (who are SUPPOSED to know what they are doing) to do the same. I am
supposing that you have some evaluative criteria that the other "experts" have
over-looked, and can therefore share with us your reasoning so we may all check
our own copies of the tapes and see if we can see what you are seeing. This is
called "science"... sharing the particulars of a theory and allowing one's
peers to independently verify your findings. I look forward to hearing from
you what I need to look for.

Lights attached to a blimp? That certainly seems to be an interesting line of
inquiry. How many blimps are in existance? I have no idea, personally. The
only ones I personally know about are owned and operated by Goodyear. I'm sure
there are others, but where would one go to book one? Could one be flown
without clearances or flight plans? How many people would be "in on this"?
Please explain the support for your theory.

As to the ability to hear sounds, allow me to suggest that you read up a bit on
acoustics and sound propagation. Any physics text will do. As a broadcast
engineer, I've had occasion to become a bit more than passingly familiar with
the subject... designing sound reinforcement systems and loudspeaker monitors
takes a bit of knowlege of the field. You will be nothing short of fascinated
to find that sound propagation depends on a NUMBER of factors, and distance is
not the most important of them. Wind direction, for instance, has FAR more
influence on the distribution of sound than does pure distance.

I could go on, but I believe I have embarassed you enough. I'm always pleased
to see good, healthy skepticism in ALL areas. That's how we "do" science. The
submission of unsupported assertions advances nothing, except the opinion of
those who understand the scientific method that the asserter knows nothing.

Have a nice day.

Doug Rogers

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Hudson Valley Tape [3/3]
Date: 5 Sep 91 06:48:02 GMT


Interesting. You do know that Phil I. tracked some ultralights to a small
airstrip, right? I have a file from him here somewhere, if you want it. It's
about a year or so old, but might have a bearing.

jbh

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Blue Grass Crop Circle (part 1)
Date: 5 Sep 91 06:49:03 GMT


Note that last year's Milan, IL circle was also 46.5 feet in diameter.

jbh

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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Re: How Old Are The 'greys'?
Date: 6 Sep 91 08:01:00 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <09-03-91 14:13> Don Ecker wrote:

DE> In a statement to Jim Speiser:
DE>
DE> > no> I have in my posession a comic book dated April, 1967 (Flying
DE> > no> Saucers,
DE>
DE> and Jim said:
DE>
DE> > That is a VERY important find, Chris. I don't know of anything
DE> else
DE> > going back that far with a description that close.
DE>
DE> Ok, but do not forget that John Fuller had already written his book
DE> on the Betty and Barney Hill case. Discriptions of the greys were
DE> included. Could the drawings of the greys been taken from that?



Naw, don't think so...recall that the Hill's aliens were slightly different
from what we're seeing these days. I think they looked more like Mr. Potato
Head, at least from the movie and the drawings I've seen. (Sorry, Don, not
making an Idaho joke here...)

Jim

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From: Jim.Speiser@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Upcoming Shows
Date: 6 Sep 91 08:31:00 GMT

I have just learned that the Thursday, Sept. 12th installment of the new
talk show hosted by Ron Reagan (the President's son) will feature UFOs. The
guests include Phil Klass, Stan Friedman and Jacques Vallee. Its my
understanding that this is quite an excellent new program, completely on the
other end of the spectrum from Geraldo & Company. Now if I could only find
out where and when its playing in Phoenix....

Jim

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From: EBay.Sun.COM!Michael.Miller
Subject: Re: VISIT and questions
Date: 6 Sep 91 16:58:20 GMT

From: Michael.Miller@EBay.Sun.COM (Michael Miller - Rev. Admin.)


Clark,
I will do my best to answer all your questions. To explain further, the
info I got about VISIT was from a private conversation that took place
about 10 years ago. The source of the info was a project scientist for
NASA-Ames Research Center and he was working on the Pioneer-Saturn project.
That seems to be the only time I heard of it. I should think if NASA has
such an ambitious project that it would have become known a bit more publicly.
Even if it is Top Secret. All the answers I give can only relate to the
info given in the course of the conversation I remember.

+>1) Is NASA *actually* conducting these sessions with abductees? Or do the
+>abductees simply *believe* that they're dealing with NASA?


According to the info NASA is conducting these sessions. It may be that
the investigations are done elsewhere and by someone not directly associated
with NASA, but it is NASA who is behind this.

+>2) Is NASA working with any acknowledged abduction researchers in this work?

This I don't know.

+>3) Does NASA find abductees through these researchers? Or are the abductees
+>contacted *independently* of any abduction researcher? (In other words, is
+>NASA getting help from abduction experts, or is 'NASA' monitoring their
+>phone conversations & contacting their subjects independently?


I am not sure how NASA finds its subjects.

+>4) How long has NASA been in the UFO-building business? Alternatively, how
+>long has the 'UFO-building business' been associated with NASA?

The conversation I am referring to took place in 1980. NASA isn't in the
UFO building business as it is interested in new forms of motive power for
space exploration. From what I understand, NASA at that time (1980) discovered
that the UFO does not travel from point A to point B in the conventional
sense. Their technology can create a condition from point A that matches
point B and then they are at point B. In other words, they don't go from
point A to point B they just tune in to point B from point A and they are there.

+>5) Since NASA can't find the money to redesign the Space Station (and
+>Congress won't appropriate it), where do they get the funds to pursue this
+>project? Or is it just an UnFunded Opportunity?

This I don't know.

+>6) Who *funds* these UnFunded Opportunities, anyway?

This I don't know, either.


+>Have you read Blum's book Out There? He makes direct reference to NASA
+>fronts for 'other' activities.

No, I haven't read this book. I haven't read too much on UFO's.


In regards to VISIT...
I am curious about this research and why not too much is known about it. I
should think if people were being hypnotized that someone involved would
have said something. Maybe they don't know they are being investigated by
NASA... I don't know. Which is why I posted a question about it. I am
relatively new to this newsletter and since most of the postings are UFO
related, I thought I would ask about this info I heard about back in 1980.
I wanted to see if anyone else has come across anything.

-Michael




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From: K_MACARTHUR1@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject: forwarded mail
Date: 6 Sep 91 17:48:11 GMT



Fireball seen in southeast NH last night (9-5)
_______________________________________________

Has anyone heard any reports of a meteor or satellite burnup on the
night of 9-5-91? Last night, as me and two friends were heading north just
by Durham, NH, at approximately 12:05 am (9/6 actually, then), we witnessed a
HUGE trail blazing from south to north. Since I only saw it from the front
window of my car going north, I can only state that the trail was at least from
90 deg. straight up to the north horizon, where I saw it disappear. I estimate
that the trail was at most 20 degrees off to the east from straight overhead,
parallel to our course. It was light blue in color, and varied in width as it
progressed extremly fast to the horizon. Doing the basic trig, and making
the assumption that the atmosphere starts burning up the meteor/whatever from
a height of 65 to 100 miles, that makes the direct overhead courseline 25 to
35 miles (very roughly) east of our position over the eastern seaboard heading
into/over Maine. If it was a satellite, as is my guess from its polar course,
it would have to be one of the many polar orbit ones. Could be a spy sat or
just a weather one (there are a few not in geosynchronous orbit to get closer
looks). Anyone have any more info or other reports? Just thought it would
be interesting to see how such things get reported and in what pattern/number
of reports.

Korac MacArthur (k_macarthur1@unhh.unh.edu)

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Strange Radio Signals From Nearby Stars ???
Date: 7 Sep 91 04:08:00 GMT


* Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
* Originally from Daniel Fischer
* Originally dated 09-05-91 17:53

From: p515dfi@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Daniel Fischer)
Date: 5 Sep 91 14:38:35 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut fuer Radioastronomie, Bonn
Message-ID: <2324@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: sci.astro,rec.radio.amateur.misc,dnet.ham,alt.alien.visitors

The following was contained in a text distributed by the German news agency
dpa, which is known for its often incorrect science stories. Nonetheless I'd
like to know what the story is behind the following remarks in a feature
article on NASA's new Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence program:

] In the same way as radio signals from earth reach out for 100 light years,
] signals of this kind can also be detected from outside earth. E.g., the
] radio telescope in Arecibo on Puerto Rico has detected electromagnetic
] pulses from stars close to the solar system, that resemble our radar.
] And Soviet astronomers are marvelling since one year about the origin of
] unusual signals that they have detected from the star Atair, only 17 light
] years away in the constellation Eagle.

+- p515dfi@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de --- Daniel Fischer --- p515dfi@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de -+
| Max-Planck-Institut f. Radioastronomie, Auf dem Huegel 69, W-5300 Bonn 1,FRG
|
+----- Enjoy the Universe - it's the only one you're likely to experience -----+

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Re: Visit And Questions
Date: 7 Sep 91 05:01:00 GMT


> From: EBay.Sun.COM!Michael.Miller
> Date: 6 Sep 91 16:58:20 GMT
> Message-ID: <14429@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM>
> Newsgroups: info.paranet
>
> From: Michael.Miller@EBay.Sun.COM (Michael Miller - Rev. Admin.)


Michael,

I have talked to my NASA source who also recalls something about a project
known as VISIT. He is checking into this further, and did say that he
recalled that it was some time ago that he recalled hearing about it.

It has been suspected by many that NASA is involved in this type of research,
and that they have a lot more knowledge of it than anyone imagines. I have
recently reviewed "Alien Liaisons," a book by Timothy Good. My first
impression of this work is that it is very weak and really stretches the
truth, if there is any. However, recently, there was a posting regarding a
Radio One program aired in the UK concerning a person hearing on this program
that NASA was sponsoring a project called "Cosmic Journey." This project was
to be a public exhibition sponsored by NASA, the Department of Defense, the
Pentagon, and presented by the Ringling Bros. Barnum and Bailey Circus
Productions. Good was supposedly contacted by a circus representative who
attempted to solicit his knowledge and experience to work on this project.
Good turned the reins over to Bob Oeschler, an American UFO researcher in
Maryland, who in turn, made some very interesting contacts via the Pentagon
and such. He reported many disturbing things occurring in his personal life
as a result of this contact, but the program never launched. Oeschler reports
that he was taken on tours of some very strange facilities which featured some
very interesting advanced technology, giving Oeschler the impression that our
government was more deeply involved in the alien cooperation scheme than
anyone imagined. Additionally, Oeschler was shown a photograph of a
supposed-dead alien in a plexiglass-type coffin. Recently, this photograph
was featured in a tabloid-style television news magazine (I can't recall which
one) as it was shown to a UFO conference in Germany. Oeschler got the
impression that this was the real McCoy, but couldn't definitively identify it
as such. While the story sounds incredible, and hardly credible, one must
admit that the connection to NASA is, at best, curious.

I am very interested in hearing anything more you find on this interesting
project VISIT. Likewise, I will post here what I am able to verify.

Mike

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From: uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: Greys and Glossaries
Date: 7 Sep 91 05:32:52 GMT

From: James Roger Black <jrblack@uiowa.edu>

There has been some discussion lately about the use of the term 'Greys'
to describe one of the alleged UFO races, and questions about how far
back the concept goes.

Here's some food for thought from 'A History of English in its own
words' by Craig M. Carver:

ELF: In Germanic mythology, an elf is a supernatural creature, small
and mischievous ... Old English _aelf_ or _ylf_ is related to Old
High German _alp_ (evil spirit, goblin, nightmare) and Old Norse
_alfr_ (elf). In ancient times, the elves must have appeared to the
Indo-Europeans as ghost-like apparitions, because _elf_, through
Proto-Germanic _albiz_, is from the root *albho- (white) with
reference to the whiteness of an apparition. In Old English, if one
was crazy or touched one would be _ylfig_ or 'elf-possessed' ... And
to have _elf-shot_ was to have a disease caused by evil spirits or
elves that supposedly shot people and cattle with elf-arrows.

So the 'elves' known in ancient times were actually apparitions which
came in the night, attacked people and cattle, and caused insanity.
Furthermore, according to the American Heritage Dictionary the 'white'
denoted by the root *albho- is not pure white, because it is used to
describe, among other things, the dull white of leprosy. So the
'elves' were not actually white but ... grey.

Hmmmmm ...




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From: uiowa.edu!jrblack
Subject: Re: Epilepsy & Dogs
Date: 7 Sep 91 05:33:30 GMT

From: James Roger Black <jrblack@uiowa.edu>

Clark.Matthews@f4.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Clark Matthews) writes:

+ Yeah. I keep coming back to what Tesla said about 'hearing' electrical
+ (really scalar) activity. About sound, light, and EM radiation being 'all
+ the same thing'. He made this statement in the early 20s and it got him
+ branded a Grade-A looney by the scientific establishment.

+ I wonder if accidents of birth or actual injuries can endow humans with
+ capabilities similar to your hypothetical psychic dog. Tesla claimed that
+ he could 'hear' his EM radiation...

For a long time people have claimed they could 'hear' meteors streaking
across the sky, describing the sound as a hissing or crackling 'like bacon
frying'. Such claims were dismissed by orthodox science as obviously
absurd, since the objects in question were much too far away (typically
tens of miles or more). Turns out that, in fact, what people were hearing
was not the actual sound of meteors screaming through the air but rather
the electromagnetic disturbance they create, which was operating directly
on the observers' nervous system. (I believe this was discussed several
months ago in Science News, but I don't have the reference anymore.)

If such is the case, then Tesla's claim to 'hear' EM turns out not to be
so weird after all.




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From: Michael.Schuyler@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley Tape
Date: 4 Sep 91 14:31:00 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <09-03-91 21:59> Jim Delton wrote:

JD> RE: Cockpit lights
JD> to other aircraft. I don't even think a 152 has cockpit
JD> lights of the type that would provide that sort of
JD> illumination, I think is just has downward focussed spot
JD> lights likethe reading lights in commercial aircraft. I

That is exactly right. The average 152 has a red focused light that shines
directly on the panel. I'm a pilot. If the notoriously bare-boned Cessna 150
series has a bright white light in the cockpit, I sure never have found it.
--Michael

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From: shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu!rblack
Subject: Strange radio signals from nearby stars ???
Date: 8 Sep 91 05:31:21 GMT

From: Roger Black <rblack@shemtaia.weeg.uiowa.edu>

The following article is forwarded from sci.astro on Usenet News.

Daniel Fischer <p515dfi@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de> writes:

+ The following was contained in a text distributed by the German news agency
+ dpa, which is known for its often incorrect science stories. Nonetheless I'd
+ like to know what the story is behind the following remarks in a feature
+ article on NASA's new Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence program:
+
+ ] In the same way as radio signals from earth reach out for 100 light years,
+ ] signals of this kind can also be detected from outside earth. E.g., the
+ ] radio telescope in Arecibo on Puerto Rico has detected electromagnetic
+ ] pulses from stars close to the solar system, that resemble our radar.
+ ] And Soviet astronomers are marvelling since one year about the origin of
+ ] unusual signals that they have detected from the star Atair, only 17 light
+ ] years away in the constellation Eagle.
+
+ p515dfi@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de --- Daniel Fischer --- p515dfi@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
+ Max-Planck-Institut f. Radioastronomie, Auf dem Huegel 69, W-5300 Bonn 1,FRG





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From: John.Burke@f9.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Burke)
Subject: Project VISIT
Date: 8 Sep 91 22:24:00 GMT

I've been seeing some speculation here over the last week or so
about Project VISIT and the possibility that it may be some sort
of secret NASA project to study UFO abductees.

This information is not true.

To find out the truth about Project VISIT one must look no
further than page 14 of the 1980 MUFON Symposium Proceedings.
This is what you will find:

> The host group for the 11th annual MUFON UFO Symposium is
> Project VISIT. VISIT is a space age type acronym that stands
> for Vehicle Internal Systems investigative Team. As the name
> implies, VISIT is a project type group and not a popular
> membership organization like MUFON, CUFOS, APRO, or other
> organizations. VISIT is a nonprofit corporation consisting of
> volunteers from the Houston/Clear Lake City area having the
> common goal of doing more about the UFO phenomenon. The group
> was inspired by the NASA operation at the Johnson Space Center
> where Projects Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Skylab anc Space
> Shuttle were successfully carried out using the project type
> approach.

> * * *

> ... VISIT membes are seeking consistent, correlative data from
> close encounter and abduction cases. . . .

> * * *

> The primary focus of the VISIT effort is an engineering and
> scientific study of the internal systems of the apparent craft
> involved in UFO or flying saucer reports; with a secondary
> interest in the physiology of the beings which occupy these
> vehicles.

This article was written by L David Kissinger and John F.
Schuessler.

Because VISIT is located in the Houston area and was inspired by
the NASA project-type approcah, we probably are now hearing
rumors to the effect that it is a NASA project. It is surely not
a secret project.

-- John

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