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                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 561 

Thursday, June 11th 1992

(C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service. All Rights Reserved.

Today's Topics:

Gulf Breeze
Re: ADAM & EVE
Aussie UFOs
Re: ROAD FLARES
Re: GULF BREEZE HOAX DISCUSSION
Re: GULF BREEZE HOAX DISCUSSION
Rosswell
Unexplained experience
Re: Gulf Breeze Hoax Discussion
Re: Free Energy Whirlpool
Belgium
"anza Ufo" Video
Gulf Breeze
Ufo Related Shows
"white" Spot In Strieber's Brain
Communion
Ufo Related Shows
"white" Spot In Strieber's Brain
Adam & Eve
Re: What Can We Do?
Re: What Can We Do?
Re: UFO Related Shows

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From: John.Hicks@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Hicks)
Subject: Gulf Breeze
Date: 2 Jun 92 07:28:07 GMT


> I don't know whether you've seen it, but there are two excelelnt
> aricles on the Gulf Breeze in the March/April issue of IUR.

Linda Bird has mailed me a copy; I'll be looking for it.
Not meaning to take a poke at Zan Overall, but I hope he's done a better job
than he did with his Ed Walters "ghost-demon" photo analysis....Bruce Maccabee
publicly demonstrated that Overall's conclusion couldn't be supported by
actually shooting a "ghost-demon" photo without a double exposure.
BTW, just for the record, I'm not on a side in the Gulf Breeze thing....I've
had both sides angry with me because I've obviously been on the "other" side.

jbh

--
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: ADAM & EVE
Date: 1 Jun 92 16:02:02 GMT

The trees were not apple trees, so it's already going astray with inaccurate
details. I know we have all been told since we were little children that it
was an apple, but apples didn't grow in the proposed area at the time.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Don.Allen@f29.n363.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Don Allen)
Subject: Aussie UFOs
Date: 3 Jun 92 01:39:04 GMT


VG> > I know you said it was unconfirmed but I'd be interested in
VG> > knowing
VG> > where this alleged meteorite hit, if anything does come of it.
VG>
VG> Don,
VG>
VG> Sorry, I haven't got any more information on this. I only
VG> heard it from one of our associates in Queensland who heard
VG> it from someone else. So, it is basically a rumor. If
VG> anybody should know something about it - it's Bill Chalker
VG> who lives in Sydney. As you've already seen, Bill's filed
VG> his report and didn't mention meteorite. He was talking to
VG> me on the phone, a few days ago, and I mentioned meteorite
VG> to him but he said he didn't know anything about it. I

Since you posted this I've scoured all over Usenet and other nets
but so far no mention..not even a peep. I think it was most likely
a rumour. Thanks again for checking. :-)

Don

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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: ROAD FLARES
Date: 3 Jun 92 15:10:17 GMT

Can you add me to the mailing list for this one? I'm interested in how they
explain the levitation process and time of the light emission. As for colors,
all flares are not made the same or of the same chemicals.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE HOAX DISCUSSION
Date: 3 Jun 92 15:14:46 GMT

If Ed came out tomorrow and said, yes I faked the photos and it's a hoax,
some people would say, oh he's been paid off to cover up the truth. This one
is not going away. I agree with most of what you said in the message. I'll
repeat my opinion of GB, it smells like dead fish, and isn't getting any
better.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Pete.Porro@f414.n154.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: GULF BREEZE HOAX DISCUSSION
Date: 3 Jun 92 15:18:21 GMT

And yes I have to agree with you also. Something is going on down there.
Some of it is creative, some unexplained. The problem is the mixture which
has obscured the facts. The problem as usual is seperating the facts from the
falicy.
--
Pete Porro - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Jake,.Smith@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Jake, Smith)
Subject: Rosswell
Date: 4 Jun 92 19:05:00 GMT


If anyone has any specific info on the Rosswell case, I'd like to
hear about it. I just learned about it and would like to know more.
I've just heard about something about the Bermuda Triangle that might
be interesting to everybody. The strange dissappearences were actually
alien abductions. If anyone has any more info on the abductions,
please leave a message.
JAKE
Smith
--
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From: John.Robin@p0.f26.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (John Robin)
Subject: Unexplained experience
Date: 5 Jun 92 17:42:00 GMT

Greetings! I'm new to this conference, and reading through it for the
last few days has got me thinking about an experience I had a couple of
years ago when I attended a midwest gathering of neopagans. The group
that I travelled with went to the gathering to perform a ceremony that
involved the use of a sigil placed on the ground traced in corn. We
ritually drew the sigil making various prayers and leaving sacred
objects within and around the sigil. The shape of the sigil was
triangular with several other lines inside the triangle forming the
lines of the sign. The intent of the working can be generally expressed
as "May the people learn to live in a good way on the planet." The
sigil was left on the ground following our cermemonial charging
throughout the remainder of the gathering as a place for people to come
and make prayers, leave offerings etc. A couple of days into the
gathering I was returning to our camp which was right next to the
sigil, late at night after doing some ecstatic dancing around the fire.
It was very dark, and I was alone except for the kids who were asleep
in the tents. As soon as I walked past the sigil, I became aware of
some very unusual perceptions. Above my head perhaps 15 feet above me,
I had the distinct vision of a rotating ring of lights. These lights
were accompanied by a very unusual sound that reminded me of a cross
between humming insects, bells and singing. At the same time I became
aware of two figures nearby, one was in front of me, the other was
"crouching" to my left. I had the distinct feeling that the one on the
left was prepared to attack me or leap on me at any moment. The figure
before me was clearer. It had a triangular head and was clothed in
some kind of garment the sort of faded out toward the ground. I felt
that the figure was asking me about the significance of the sigil. My
fear left me as I held my hands around a medicine pouch that I was
wearing around my neck. I held the original intent of the sigil in my
mind. I felt that the being wanted me to go to the sigil. I walked
over to the corn painting, which was lit by tiki torches and made a
silent prayer. As I did this I suddenly felt that "they" had gone.
Feeling exhilarated I returned to the bonfire. Since then I have read
much more about UFO experiences and recognised certain elements of my
encounter were very similar to other cases. Yet certain elements were
very different. For instance, I was able to somehow communicate my
intentions with the beings, and perhaps effect the outcome of the
experience. This is contrary to almost every UFO encounter I've read
about where the "victim" seems completly unable to effect the
situation. Also interesting was the triangular sigil which it seems
has occured before in cases where people have actually "called" the
experience. Because the purpose of the sigil was spiritually motivated
I am also inclined to think that "they" were able to understand this
when I "explained" it to them, and
being satisfied, departed. I realize that this incident will be
regarded with intense skepticism, and I can only say that this was a
unique experience in my life unlike anything I've ever encountered, and
that this description is an accurate reporting of how this event seemed
to me as it occured.

--
John Robin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
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From: Pony.Godic@f6.n1040.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Pony Godic)
Subject: Re: Gulf Breeze Hoax Discussion
Date: 7 Jun 92 00:44:00 GMT


> I second your Gulf Breeze message with a vengeance. It was to
> avoid precisely this prospect of decades of "wondering" that I
> wrote my open letter to Ed Walters, in which I exhorted him to
> "come clean now." I even gave him a financial motivation: he
> could write another book on how he fooled the world's leading
> ufologists. (To no avail; I never received a response from him).
> Your analogy with the Cottingley fairies is a good one, but I
> think we can at least take heart with the fact that no one, to
> my knowledge, actually BELIEVED the sisters for that long,
> especially after the art of trick photography became known to
> more and more people.

Hi Jim,

I'm not surprised that Walters didn't take you up on your offer. I
expect his publishers and others might feel he had damaged their
credibility etc and sue for damages if he responded to your invitation
to come clean. Even if this was not of concern
to Walters, I expect there's more money to be made yet. I think he
started off simply for the pleasure of seeing people make
fools of themselves and the sense of superiority that returned to
him. But then when he found there was money to be made things got
serious. I expect he's got another couple of books to write, each
progressively more sensational in its revelations.

Personally, I find the hoaxers (and there are quite a few of them
about at present, hard at work in quite a few countries), opportunists and
nutters so exasperating. It really gets to me that the people of integrity and
intelligence can't even get published, or if they do, the book
doesn't sell well. The public wants sensation and this public hunger
is providing a lucrative living and lots of limelight for the
unprincipled opportunist. Anyway, I suppose all we can do is just
keep going as we are with no choice other than to fight the good
fight. Cheers, Pony.

--
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From: anubis.network.com!logajan
Subject: Re: Free Energy Whirlpool
Date: 6 Jun 92 15:52:29 GMT

From: logajan@anubis.network.com (John Logajan)

The description of a free energy source using a whirlpool effect overlooked
the simple reason it won't work -- water exiting at the rim has angular
momentum while the water being sucked up at the bottom center does not.

Angular momemtum (mass*energy of motion) is being lost over the rim.
If you just replace the mass without replacing the lost energy, the
whirlpool will slow down to the point that water will no longer make it
over the rim.

Even if you could recapture the angular momemtum you are only pursuing a
perpetual motion machine -- and friction losses, etc, always get in the
way.


- John Logajan MS010, Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
- logajan@network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853




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From: Marc.Michalik@p0.f150.n30163.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Marc Michalik)
Subject: Belgium
Date: 7 Jun 92 00:02:00 GMT

I don't know. I think it has something to do with mountain peaks or
something. It did't hold water with me, I thought it to be just
another far-fetched theory by somebody who can't handle the idea
that aliens that are more advanced than us are already here.
--
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: "anza Ufo" Video
Date: 7 Jun 92 02:30:00 GMT


> I've noticed that failure to reasonably properly use the hardware in
> relation to many ufo videos, photos etc. It's as if the people who're
> using the gear have just obtained it and have never familiarized
> themselves with it.....seems that they just set it on Automatic and let
> it rip.
> Like at Anza....if the intensified image hadn't bloomed and smeared
> from overload/overexposure, they might possibly have seen wings and a
> tail and solved the mystery...or of course might have seen something
> else entirely. But they just got the standard blurry blob.

I agree John, but you know there appeared to be people involved in that
project that were representing the company that supplied the radar set. I may
have seen it wrong as I don't have a videotape of it, but I recall some guy
talking about something that was associated with Panasonic(?).

I just don't buy into that big piece about how they have done this work and
captured a true UFO on film. It just looks to me like a sham.

Mike

--
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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Gulf Breeze
Date: 7 Jun 92 02:31:00 GMT


> A recent article in the Pensacola Beach _Islander_ by Bland Pugh notes
> that Gary Watson's team has shot some spectra....
> A photograph of a redlight ufo was shot through a diffraction grating,
> and immediately thereafter, a shot of a far-away flare (setup) was shot
> through the same diffraction grating, same film etc. According to
> Watson, the spectra do _not_ match. There was no indication of in which
> ways the spectra did not match; atmospheric crud, dust, moisture etc.
> could account for the differences.
> No other info at this point.

This is a good step in the right direction. If you get contact with any of
these people, ask them to provide you with the spectra data so we can have our
NASA analyst go over it.

Thanks,

Mike

--
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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 7 Jun 92 03:29:01 GMT

Hello Tom!

Saturday May 30 1992, Tom Davis writes to Richard Salts:

TD> If you can secure the production finances and completion bond, I will
TD> provide you with all the actors, technicians and productions you need.
TD> But, only if your intent is quality work (either fiction or non-fiction)
TD> with an aim at bettering the general understanding of UFO research.

When I posted my message, I did not have in mind myself as I haven't the means
to get production finances, et al. I was only submitting an idea in response
to the question, "What can we do?" regarding UFO type shows. But if I was in a
position to do anything like that, ONLY top quality shows would be what I would
have in mind.


Rich

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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: "white" Spot In Strieber's Brain
Date: 7 Jun 92 02:42:02 GMT

Hello Anson!

Sunday May 31 1992, Anson Kennedy writes to Richard Salts:


>> Given the source (Robert Scheaffer, a Skeptical
>> Inquirer writer) and given CISCOP's overwhelming
>> penchant for describing anybody who has a positive
>> interest in any paranormal subject in the most
>> belittling, derisive, patronizing and derogatory terms
>> available, I have quite severe reservations about
>> Scheaffer's alleged "description" of Mr. Strieber and
>> how Strieber is supposed to have acted on the set of
>> KPIX.

AK> It's easy enough to check. Call KPIX and ask.

AK> -+- Anson

Better yet, I would ask Strieber himself as he is the subject of whatever
happened at KPIX. If I had a current address and if he would be willing to
answer, I might venture to ask.


Rich

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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: Communion
Date: 7 Jun 92 02:44:03 GMT

Hello Linda!

Monday June 01 1992, Linda Bird writes to Richard Salts:

LB> Hi Richard!

LB> Thanks for reply. I have only read 3 of Strieber's books. I "liked"
LB> "Communion," but when I read "Transformation," I began to doubt both
LB> Strieber's credibility and sanity. There was a part where the Visitors
LB> instructed Strieber to give up Oreos or some kind of cookie, and that just
LB> seemed like nonsense to me. HOWEVER! Now that I have been a baby
LB> ufologist for 2 years, I also know the aliens give people nonsense
LB> messages and say deceptive things. So perhaps I'm more tolerant today of
LB> silly instructions via aliens.

LB> Did you ever read Strieber's book "Majestic?" I liked it best of all the
LB> three he wrote with UFO themes.

LB> Now I'm going to have to ask you to tell me again which chap. in
LB> "Communion" I need to look at, and I will do so, and write back.

LB> Thanks a million,

LB> Linda

It's been quite awhile since I read "Transformation". I'll have to go back to
it to refresh myself. I have "Majestic" but I'm awfully behind on my UFO and
sci-fi reading and I have only gotten partly through it and I bought the
hardcover edition a couple of years back. "Majestic" is a work of fiction
'based on' the Roswell crack-up of "whatever-it-was".

As to "Communion", It's Chapter Six, "A Structure in the Air - Science, History
and Secret Knowledge"
that I think is very good.


Happy reading,


Rich

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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: Ufo Related Shows
Date: 7 Jun 92 02:57:04 GMT

Hello Linda!

Monday June 01 1992, Linda Bird writes to Richard Salts:

LB> Hi Richard,
LB> How about Jerome Clark of CUFOS?? (Can I help??)
LB> Linda

Jerome Clark, yourself, and a few other names I could think of, sure. Problem
is, I would not be the one to talk to about doing any kind of UFO type show.
I was just contributing an idea for general consideration. Somebody
sympathetic to the UFO scientific community who could get the attention of
whoever does, say, the NOVA science show (for starters) would be the one to get
a hold of.


Rich

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From: Richard.Salts@p0.f28.n1012.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Richard Salts)
Subject: "white" Spot In Strieber's Brain
Date: 7 Jun 92 03:03:05 GMT

Hello John!

Monday June 01 1992, John Hicks writes to Richard Salts:


>> severe reservations about Scheaffer's alleged "description" of Mr.
>> Strieber and how Strieber is supposed to have acted on the set of KPIX.

JH> In other words, you think he's putting a spin on the story. Right?

It's certainly possible.

JH> But I don't think so simply because almost anyone could independently
JH> verify the story, or discover that it isn't true. I don't know Schaeffer,

He writes for the Skeptical Inquirer.

JH> but I think he'd feel that the risk of being discredited would outweight

I doubt it. CSICOP sympathizer and prominent debunker (although he denies
being a 'debunker') James Randi is in legal hot water because of statements he
made about one Eldon Byrd (who is a friend of Uri Geller), claiming that Byrd
was a child molester and in prison. Neither was true (so the New York Skeptic
admits) and Byrd is suing Randi. Uri Geller has also filed suits against
Randi. These tidbits are from a George Hanson article about CSICOP in the
January issue of the Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research.
The article is titled, "CSICOP and the Skeptics: An Overview". So with tha
above in mind, I wouldn't put it past Scheaffer to perhaps get a bit on the
colorful side of verbally describing a certain person associated with UFO's.

JH> the potential gain. Also, Whitley sort of behaved like a spoiled child in
JH> his "farewell letter," so that supports Schaeffer's story.

I missed that "farewell letter", so to speak. Would it be in Paranet's
library so I could download and read it and see what Strieber said?

JH> jbh

Rich

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From: Peggy.Noonan@p0.f605.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Adam & Eve
Date: 7 Jun 92 03:48:01 GMT

>What do you know about Adam & Eve being found south of Denver?
>I was doing serious research in the weekly World News, trying
>to keep up with the latest UFO sightings and spotted the
>article.

>Houston
>

Well, not much...
Serious research in WWN? Hmmmmmm..... ;-)
The story was picked up and featured in the Rocky Mountain News,
one of Denver's two major dailies (which is also on Compuserve's
newspaper database for those who want to search the article and
read it online or download it). Essentially, RMN just reported what
the WWN said and followed up on that by 1) figuring out which county
Adam and Eve would have been in (place they were supposed to be
found), 2) checking with experts to find out whether any such dig
was in progress or authorized (no such dig found - surprise!), 3)
checking with more experts to see if anyone ever heard of the
supposed finder of Adam & Eve (no one had), 4) trying other sources
to track down this finder (not fruitful), and 5) mentioning the
other guy who says HE found Adam & Eve and their Apple Tree -- and
snake, if my recollection is correct -- in Jersey.
I did clip the story and have it here someplace (house is an
upsidedown disaster just now due to several impending crises) and
could get you the date/page, etc. if you want. Let me know.
BTW, I will probably be several days or a week getting back here...
swamped just now.
(Oh, about the Colorado Adam & Eve...guess they didn't find any
snake along with 'em here.)
==Peggy==
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From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis)
Subject: Re: What Can We Do?
Date: 5 Jun 92 19:55:00 GMT


I have found that the best way to stop sarcasm is to show results for
our labors. I recall when I was a grad student in music composition I
was constantly put down by family members who insisted that I should
get out in the world and get a real job. But, when some of my music
began to show up at local performances, and when I was able to casually
leave published scores lying about the house - the sarcasm stopped.
Interestingly, though, resentment took its place. People, I have
learned, don't like having their own smallness rubbed in their faces.
The same applies for my penchant for science fiction. School
teachers, parents, religious leaders, friends - all, told me what a
waste of time it was to involve myself in such trash. One published
short story in Galaxy later, and it all subsided.
That leaves us with a universal goal - productivity. How do we show
that there is substance to what we are doing as UFOlogists? Maybe we
can't. Maybe there isn't. But, somewhere in a deep recess of our
minds there is a small glint of realization that insists, "Someday,
even if all we really had was dreams, others will find that our dreams
were true."


--
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From: Tom.Davis@f201.n350.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Tom Davis)
Subject: Re: What Can We Do?
Date: 5 Jun 92 20:21:00 GMT


I wish I had known Hynek better. I had classes under him and was
able to work with him on a very (and I stress) very limited basis. My
interaction with him concerning UFOs came from conferences and a few
exchanged letters..and field investigation. When he began his work in
UFOs he was absolutely convinced that there was a viable solution -
probably one that would include scientific repeatability - hence,
making it acceptable to the scientific community. In reflection we
know that he never achieved his goal.
The path of UFO research does not include the media, fame or income.
It does include methodology, close ties with authorities and a dogged
determination.
We might as well ask people to become monks. If I had the finances
and the resources and the staff, sure I would accept your challenge.
But I do not. I know of few, if any, who do have such options.
I share the sentiments expressed by Hynek in one of his lectures:
"Given what I have seen and what I now know to be, I am disheartened by
the very hucksters who line the halls beyond this conference room. Out
there at the dealer's tables you can see why the study of UFOs will
never happen. It is not government intervention, coercion or apathy
that is killing us - it is our own acceptance of convention-oriented
thrill seekers, money-changers (presumably referring to the
money-changers Christ drove from the temple in the Bible - TD) and
liars that is our downfall."

These were powerful words from an individual who had repeatedly taken
every step to avoid offending any and all elements of UFO studies. He
seemed angry that day. I felt very sorry for him.

--
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From: Linda.Bird@f100.n1010.z9.FIDONET.ORG (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: UFO Related Shows
Date: 8 Jun 92 00:30:00 GMT

Hi Mark,

Did you get a chance to see Don Ecker's fim clip on Friday's HARD
COPY? It was quite astounding! There was this little white, roundish
object cruising about the Earth's surface when all of a sudden
something headed straight for it as if to knock it out of the sky. The
crusing object rapidly changed course and darted straight up to get out
of the way. Wow! Don said the film came from NASA.

As for what UFO's and breast implants might have in common: no one can
hardly believe their eyes when they see either one!! <:-)

Linda

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