Lambic Digest #0402

eZine lover (@eZine)

Published in 

Lambic Digest

 · 11 Apr 2024

From postmaster at longs.lance.colostate.edu Thu Jul 21 03:46:47 1994 
Received: from longs.lance.colostate.edu by goodman.itn.med.umich.edu with SMTP id AA07080 
  (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for spencer at hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu); Thu, 21 Jul 94 03:46:36 -0400 
Received: from localhost (daemon at localhost) by longs.lance.colostate.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5a (LANCE 1.01)) id AAA19492 for reallambic at longs.lance.colostate.edu; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 00:30:08 -0600 
Message-Id: <199407210630.AAA19492 at longs.lance.colostate.edu> 
Reply-To: lambic at longs.lance.colostate.edu (postings only - do not send subscription requests here) 
Errors-To: lambic-request at longs.lance.colostate.edu 
From: lambic-request at longs.lance.colostate.edu (subscription requests only - do not post here) 
To: lambic at longs.lance.colostate.edu 
Subject: Lambic Digest #402 (July 21, 1994) 
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 00:30:08 -0600 

 

 

 
Lambic Digest #402                             Thu 21 July 1994 

 

 
        Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles) 
                Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator 

 

 
Contents: 
  Cleanliness and Fruit ("RKESSLER") 
  Blanche de Bruges yeast (Ed Hitchcock) 
  Microscopes (ptimmerm) 

 

 
Send article submissions only to: lambic at longs.lance.colostate.edu 
Send all other administrative requests (subscribe/unsubscribe/change) to: 
     lambic-request at longs.lance.colostate.edu 
Back issues are available by mail; send empty message with subject 'HELP' to: 
     netlib at longs.lance.colostate.edu 

 
A FAQ is also available by netlib; say 'send faq from lambic' as the 
subject or body of your message (to netlib at longs.lance.colostate.edu). 

 
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 

 
Date: 20 Jul 1994 09:54:09 EST 
From: "RKESSLER" <RKESSLER at HR.HOUSE.GOV> 
Subject: Cleanliness and Fruit 

 

 
Hi y'all. 

 
I could use a little advise on fruit additions.  I have decided 
to add about 5 lbs. of frozen raspberries to my plambic that's 
been going for about 6 months.  I intend to siphon the lambic 
into another glass carboy containing the raspberries and oak 
chips.  I then intend to pitch some brett cultures and dregs and 
let the whole thing sit for another few months. 

 
I am concerned, however, about contamination from the fruit.  Do 
most of you pasturize your fruit or do you just add it in without 
thought to any new bugs that might infect the lambic?  If anyone 
pasturizes, how do they accomplish this (i.e. how much water, 
what temperature, how long, etc.)?  Has anyone tried microwaving? 

 
Also, am I right to siphon or should I just try to cram the 
berries into the current fermenter?  And --this harks back to an 
ongoing debate-- should I use glass or will I be better served by 
plastic's ability to let some oxygen in? 

 
Thanks for any help. 

 
- --Rick Kessler 
 (rkessler at hr.house.gov) 

 

 
------------------------------ 

 
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 11:28:43 -0300 
From: Ed Hitchcock <ECH at ac.dal.ca> 
Subject: Blanche de Bruges yeast 

 
>Many of the wits are bottle conditioned with Lactobacillus, however pure 
>cultuers can be obtained when the sediment is streaked on a bacteria 
>inhibiting medium.  If you see lots of rod-shaped organisms under a 
>microscope, then you probably have lactobacillus.   

 
        That's what I thought.  I was trying to brew a flanders brown with  
this yeast, thinking that those little rods I saw under the scope were  
lactobacilus.  They weren't apparantly.  One of the three batches of beer I  
have ever dumped down the drain, I'm sad to say.  Apart from the infection,  
the yeast performance was remarkably lager-like anyway. 

 

 

 
*-Ed Hitchcock---ech at ac.dal.ca---*  Mares drink Grolsch and does drink  
*-Anat.&Neurobio.---Dalhousie-U.-*  Koelsch and little lambs drink Lambic. 
*-Halifax--NS--Can---------------*  Ed'll drink Lambic too, wouldn't you? 

 
------------------------------ 

 
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 08:35:10 PDT 
From: ptimmerm at mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV 
Subject: Microscopes 

 
"Dave Suurballe" <suurb at farallon.com> 
 writes 

 
>...could somebody tell us what this particular scope could be used for?  

 
>  It is a Swift Model M251B.  Monocular, 10X eyepeice, widefield, DIN optics,  
>"student-proof" coarse and fine focus, 4X, 10X and 40X objectives, illuminator. 
>  Retail was $420 , the flyer has it listed for $165.  The catalog number is  
>  WLS48165-57. 

 
This microscope will get you 400X, which is enough to see most of the critters 
of interest.  Things like yeast and lactobacilli are quite large.  The hard 
thing to see is some of the smallest bacteria, pediococcus.  To see these 
you would need a much better microscope, say 1000X with an oil immersion 
lense.  I bought one second hand from a retire Bausch and Lomb employee 
who lives locally.  This is a medical quality microscope.  If somebody 
wants one of these I can look up the old guy again. 

 
Paul Timmerman 

 
------------------------------ 

 

 
End of Lambic Digest 
************************ 
-------