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Subject: Lambic Digest #940 (September 16, 1996)
Lambic Digest #940 Mon 16 September 1996
Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
Contents:
Re: Lambic Digest #939 (September 15, 1996) ("PATRICK RACETTE")
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 13:33:48 -0500
From: "PATRICK RACETTE" <pracette at jonction.net>
Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #939 (September 15, 1996)
Please take me off your mailing list
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> Subject: Lambic Digest #939 (September 15, 1996)
> Date: 15 septembre, 1996 01:30
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>
> Lambic Digest #939 Sun 15 September 1996
>
>
> Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
> Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
>
>
> Contents:
> please take me off your mailing list plese (bret+sue lane)
> Lambic Digest #930 (September 06, 1996)
> Please read the header, Duh! (Jim Liddil)
> Here's some distressing news.....or is it? (STROUDS)
> Re: Lambic Digest #929 (September 05, 1996) (PVetter966)
>
>
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> from the archives lists individual topics and the complete set.
> Start with the help message above then request the index.
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> subject or body of your message (to netlib at engr.colostate.edu).
> A new FAQ is under construction at:
> http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~jeremybb/lambic/lambic.html
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> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:43:56 -0400
> From: bret+sue lane <Bret.Lane at ConnRiver.net>
> Subject: please take me off your mailing list plese
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> Lambic Digest #930 Fri 06 September 1996
>
>
> Forum on Lambic Beers (and other Belgian beer styles)
> Mike Sharp, Digest Coordinator
>
>
> Contents:
> Please read the header, Duh! (Jim Liddil)
> Here's some distressing news.....or is it? (STROUDS)
> Re: Lambic Digest #929 (September 05, 1996) (PVetter966)
>
>
> Send article submissions only to: lambic at engr.colostate.edu
> Send all other administrative requests (subscribe/unsubscribe/change) to:
> lambic-request at engr.colostate.edu
> Note that the request address is not an automated server. It forwards
> to a real person who may not be able to process the request immediately.
> Subscription changes often take 2-5 days, sometimes more.
>
> Back issues are available by mail; send empty message with subject 'HELP'
to:
> netlib at engr.colostate.edu
> Phil Seitz' series on Brewing Belgian Beer is available; the index
> from the archives lists individual topics and the complete set.
> Start with the help message above then request the index.
> A FAQ is also available by netlib; say 'send faq from lambic' as the
> subject or body of your message (to netlib at engr.colostate.edu).
> A new FAQ is under construction at:
> http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~jeremybb/lambic/lambic.html
>
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> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 7:43:22 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jim Liddil <JLIDDIL at AZCC.Arizona.EDU>
> Subject: Please read the header, Duh!
>
> Russell wrote:
>
> >
> > Boy, I'm half-tempted to with all these "postings" that seem to be
> > coming through all the time. Maybe I should just quit the internet
> > in general and read more books. Like the ones on paper. Nahhh...
>
> Since The Janitor won't do it I will. A polite reminder, use the
address:
> lambic-request at engr.colostate.edu for unsubscribing. It is common
netiquette
> to read the digest header and follow the simple straight forward
directions.
> After all you all learned to use a computer so you probably know how to
read.
>
> >
> > About a month ago, I tasted my latest pLambic. Brewed around April or
> > so, I think. Have to double check to be sure. Anyway, it's damned
young.
> > And it's -painfully- sour. I pitched a mixed culture I got from
someone
> > here, I think Dave Sapsis, as well as the dregs from a bottle of Cuvee
> > Rene and a bottle of Boon Gueze, and maybe something else. I forget.
> > (Pretty sure it's in my notes.) Anyway, I was shocked and amazed, and
> > delighted, by how sour the stuff is. Somewhere between a Boon Gueze
and
> > a Cantillon. Painful, like I said. My mouth is watering just thinking
> > about it. It's still pretty young in a lot of ways, but I was
surprised,
> > especially given some of what I've read here, that it got so sour so
quickly.
>
>
> Get a bottle of American Wheat beer. Add Acetic acid to one bottle to a
> concentration of 1000 ppm. Do the same with lactic acid to a level of
2500
> ppm. Taste the difference.
> It is quite possible that you got a large growth of lactic bacteria. But
I
> found that even with a "large" innoculum of pure lactic bacteria into
unhopped
> wort that it took a good month before the lactic level got really
pronounced
> and the pH down to 3.2. But anything is possible. Anytime you take
organsisms
> out of one environment and put them in another they may grow better and
over
> grow the other critters. I have had this phenomenon occur and the
problem was
> that the beer kept getting more acid. Time will tell.
>
> > I'd be more than happy to share samples of the cultures in exchange for
a
> > bottle or two of anything someone can make work from it, but I'm
totally
> > inexperienced about handling cultures. Any suggestions or requests?
>
> Use a racking cane to siphon off some dregs into some fresh unhopped
wort.
> Then add some amphotericin B to nuke the yeast. :-) You will have a nice
> bacterial culture.
>
>
> > From: "Jim Hodge" <Jim_Hodge at ilsc.com>
> > Subject: American lambic?
> >
> > American lambic?
> > To get right to my question: Is a drinkable lambic-type of beer
possible using
> > completely homegrown flora?
>
> This depends on where you live and how infected you want your hosue to
become.
> :-) It is apparent that the key to beer like lambic and Rodenbach is
that
> these brewers have breweries that are infected with the right microflora.
The
> buildings and the brewing vessels are teaming with various yeast and
bacteria.
> Rodenbach for example would not be the beer it is without the oak tuns
and
> epoxy coated tanks that are infected with the right bugs. Get an oak
barrel
>
> Jim
> www.u.arizona.edu/~jliddil
>
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> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 17:29:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: STROUDS at cliffy.polaroid.com
> Subject: Here's some distressing news.....or is it?
>
> Here's a bit of interesting information:
>
> Peter Bouckaert, the brewer at Rodenbach (he is the person who gave the
talk at
> the National Craft-brewers Conference and Trade Show in Boston last
April), has
> been offered and has accepted a brewing job at New Belgium Brewing Co.,
Ft.
> Collins, CO. Peter, his wife, and family are moving to Colorado in late
> September.
>
> What does this mean for Rodenbach? New Belgium? Who the heck knows?
>
> Steve
> ************
> strouds at polaroid.com
> ************
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:27:15 -0400
> From: PVetter966 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Lambic Digest #929 (September 05, 1996)
>
> please take me off your mailing list.
>
> Thanks.
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