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++ Editor's Notes
++ Dream Airing: Notes, letters to the editor
++ Column: Dream Trek: Dare To Dream
Linda Lane Magall¢n
++ Report: Results of Mutual Dream Survey
Julie Keyser
++ Series: Easy Dreams: Making Nightmares Pay (Part II)
Anthony Dubetz
++ Article: Dreams and the Lunar Cycle
Randy Wasserstrom
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I'm really proud of you. You dream, you recall your dreams,
you may even write them down and tell them to others. These are
fabulous and daring tasks. I want to draw on Linda Lane
Magall¢n's "Dare To Dream" article this month to tell you that
you are the most daring when you tell other people that dreams
are of value to you. Our culture is in a dream-closet and every
time you value your dreams publically, people take notice and
eventually we can all come out.
Read Linda's column this month on and go out and tell at
least one new person this week that you dream.
Last month Tony Dubetz put his dream book online and has the
discussion mail list open for chat (ed-core@lists.best.com)
Electric Dreams is also publishing this work in parts. This month
is part II, The Impression. To make the dream work for you in
waking life, you will need a good sense or impression of this
dream. Tony will explain this concept and show how to practice
and bring this into your waking life.
For the full text go to
www.dreamgate.com/dream/dubetz/
How many of your have nightmares or mutual dreams? The survey
you participated is in and Julie Keyser has the results!
This survey, and other research about mutual dreams, shows that
sharing dreams with another individual is not only possible, but if
we pay attention and discuss our dreams, it may be much more common
than we think.
Last year we had a full series on astrology an dreams, called
dreaming through the houses. SEE
Www.dreamgate.com/dream/ed-backissues
To get us aligned with the stars once again is Randy
Wasserstrom. Randy suggests we look at the current position of
the moon in its sign and house in our astrological birthchart,
then correlate similar themes from dreams which occur at the same
time of this cycle. Through this process of connecting dreams
with the cycle of the moon, we can become clearer about our inner
patterns and rhythms. Read the full scoop in "Dreams and The
Lunar Cycle".
Dr. Deus continues his exploration into just how divine our
dreams really are with another journey into the wisdom of the
path. But this is not a retreat into nostalgia. Dr. D uses
readers dreams and relates the dreams to our life and just how
sacred it can be. Be sure to take the journey and read the column
DIVINE MESSAGES: "DIVINE REALM "
The Global Dreaming News will be sent out separately this month,
giving us a chance to focus on the events at the Association for
the Study of Dreams. Be sure to read the News!
I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Bob Krumhansl, the
Dream Editor for Electric Dreams in offine reality this last
month in San Francisco. We went up to the Dream Library and
Archive and met with some other famous dreamworkers and I had a
fabulous time. Bob still had time to fly home and get the dream
section done for you and it is just wonderful. Be sure to read
his dream editorial and pick up what is going on in the Dream
Section!
Finally, be sure to read through the notes to the editor. There
are a couple of research requests I'd like you to respond to if
possible and some information on how to join an online dream
group or discussion. Get those dream journals out and look for
dreams of fish, wolves, cats and salamanders that you would be
willing to have published!
Dare to Dream,
Richard Wilkerson
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Dream Airing
Notes, letters to the editor
Send to rcwilk@aolcom
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From Pat:
Have you had dreams about: Fish, worms, salamanders, cats,
wolves?
If so, I would like to include them in my next book!
You can have our name or pen name in the book.
Please send
1. Dream
2. What you feel it means
3. A little life context, who you are, what's going on.
Sent dream and info to Pat at
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Subj: Recherches
Date:98-03-09 13:37:29 EST
From:Mg-cibard@classic.msn.com (Marc Gerald cibard)
To:rcwilk@aol.com
Cher Monsieur
Je recherches le livre suivant
I am loking for the book :
Studies in dream ARNOLD-FORSTER Mary N.Y. 1921
Merci, sincerement
Thanks, Sincerely
mg-cibard@classic.msn.com
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but we will submit you questions to our network and other
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DREAM TREK
By Linda Lane Magall¢n
Dare To Dream
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Towards the end of my tenure as editor of *Dream Network Bulletin,* a
reader wrote me a puzzled letter. Why, he asked, did I use the
subtitle "A Newsletter For People Who Dare To Dream"? How could
someone "dare to dream?" he wondered. Wasn't dreaming a natural
process? Yes, it's a natural process. No, this is not a
dream-friendly world.
I think we dreamers dare to dream in three ways:
We dare to be known as dreamers in public
We dare to dream as an active verb
We dare to be optimists
There are still folks in the logical Western world who believe that
dreams are frivolous, but they usually can be dissuaded when you pay
attention to THEIR dreams. It also helps to have a few thoughtful
examples in your repertoire. And your own enthusiasm and sense of
humor goes a long way to make for a comfortable encounter with a
skeptic.
Unfortunately, as with any subject that's not well known, fear can be
an obstacle to discussion. I have been ignored, curtly dismissed,
warned, ridiculed and threatened because people can believe certain
types of dreams to be spiritually or psychologically bad for you.
This especially applies to proactive dreaming. Some people equate
lucidity with dream control (it isn't the same). Others believe that
even to mention the word "psychic" is equivalent to opening up
Pandora's box (it most certainly doesn't have to be). And the
intimacy of mutual dreaming brings its own set of concerns.
Once I was called a name in print because I "dared" to suggest that
instead of collecting studies of worst case scenarios, it might be
wiser to look for cases where proactive dreaming was successful. No,
I wasn't advocating that we repress the shadow. I was advocating for
a better balanced point of view. I "dared" think that folks who had
figured out how to go all the way through the valley of shadow and
emerge hale and hardy on the other side would be in the best position
to advise those who were running into obstacles. I was suggesting
that instead of stirring up a cyclone of worries and concerns, we get
off our duffs and go look for the answers to our conflicts. If this
proactive stance to problem solving is being too optimistic, then
please call me an optimist.
I'm optimistic enough to think that someday the general public (and
the dreaming community!) will be better informed about dreams. Geeze,
maybe someday I can even make a living from this. Or is that too much
like dreamin'?
How do you dare to dream?
CaseyFlyer@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/caseyflyer/fbnc/fbnc01.htm (Fly-By-Night Club)
http://members.aol.com/dreampsi/archive/index.htm (DreamPSI Archive)
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Results of Mutual Dream Survey
by Julie Keyser
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Dream participants:
35 total: 10 male
25 female
Ages:2 age 61 age 284 age 40 1 age 491 age 78
1 age 192 age 352 age 421 age 52
1 age 232 age 361 age 432 age 67
3 age 242 age 382 age 451 age 69
3 age 271 age 391 age 461 age 77
Marital Status:
10 single
2 single/living with someone
2 engaged
18 married
3 widowed
Occupations:
5 homemakers
1 computer programmer
1 in customer service
1 advertising buyer
1 private employee
1 sleep lab technician
5 self-employed -various jobs
1 Accts. Rec. for physican
1 writer
1 electronic engineer
4 unemployed
1 pastor
1 security guard
1 advancement researcher
3 teachers
1 beautician
1 secretary
1 manager of administrations
1 county employee
1 art consultant
1 office worker
1 retired
(2 included in the above list are also retired)
Education:
2 elementary students
13 high school graduates
4 some college
2 technical college graduates
5 college graduates
2 undergraduate degrees
7 college and graduate school degrees
Number of Children:
13 have no children
5 have 1 child
10 have 2 children
5 have 3 children
1 has 4 children
1 has 5 children
#9 Number that keep dream journals: 10 (3 of them said only
occasionally)
#10 Who do they discuss dreams with: (mutiple answers possible)
2 spouse3 significant other
17 family10 friends
2 co-workers1 parents (both)
3 mother2 twin
1 children1 roommate
1 internet groups1 whoever will listen
#11 Sleep disorders:
8 said they talk in their sleep, but 3 of them wouldn't call
that a disorder
5 suffer from occasional insomnia
and 1 says "once in a blue moon will 'act up' in dreams"
#12 Remembering Dreams:
28 said yes, if
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not every night
7 insisted they don't remember their dreams
#13 Participant/Observer
22 participants
2 unsure
11 sometimes a participant, sometimes an observer
No one said they always only observed in their dreams
#14 Me, myself and I - vs.- I can be others too.
21 are just themselves in dreams (one indicated to be different
ages however)
2 are unsure
12 can be either themselves or others (one indicated to also
be animals in a dream)
#15 Know others thoughts in addition to your own in a dream?
14 say yes, although not in every dream
2 are unsure
19 say no
#16 Re-occurring dreams:
28 have them
7 don't
#17 Only 4 have frequent nightmares, (one indicated they were extreme
and one indicated they occurred more during childhood)
31 are rarely bothered by nightmares
#18 Had telepathic experiences?
22 say yes
2 said maybe
1 didn't answer
10 say no
#19 If yes to answer #18, what is your relationship to the person you
connected with? (multiple answers possible)
5 spouse3 significant other
7 mother2 father
1 sister2 twin
3 daughter1 children
2 family6 friends
2 co-workers1 people with close relationships
1 enemy (which still indicates emotional closeness)
and only 2 said they've had telepathic experiences with people
not particularly close to them.
#20 Bodily functions interrupting dreams? Happens to almost everyone.
29 said yes
2 didn't answer
4 say that's never happened
#21 Other things bothering sleep - sounds, smells, etc.?
26 said yes
2 no answer
7 say no - must be deep sleepers. (Wonder if they're frequently
late for work?!) :)
#22 Seeing the future?
11 have had dream premonitions (of those 11: 3 indicated having
several
1 indicated only 1
and 7 said they only
have dream premonitions
occasionally)
3 were unsure
2 didn't answer
19 said no
#23 Mutual dreams:
9 have experienced shared dreams. Of those: 1 dreamer indicated
the dreams occurred years apart (without prior knowledge)
2 experienced a shared dream with their twin
1 dream shared between a mother and daughter was also
precognitive
#24 Who they experienced shared dreams with: (multiple answers
possible)
1 lover2 twin
1 people close to me2 daughter
3 mother3 father
1 stranger - this dreamer had a precognitive dream that he/she
took steps to bring about. The person in the dream
also shared the dream experience. They were unknown
to each other before this.
#25 Psi experiences occur for dreamers:
These experiences ranged from twice a week to once in a lifetime
6 said rarely
Others say:
once a yearonce a month
twice in 36 yearstwice a week
once in 6 monthsonce a week
once in 60 years
#27 Everyone gave permission to use their submissions.
6 wanted credit for specific quotes, although 2 indicated credit
by first name only
21 wanted to remain anonymous, and
8 left the decision up to me.
I chose to keep everyone anonymous for 'this' survey.
The shared experiences were all unique and very interesting.
Some participants of this survey indicated that they didn't pay
enough
attention to their dreams nor did they discuss their dreams enough
with
others to establish whether they'd experienced mutual dreams or not.
14 of the participants are regulars of dream groups or lists
on-line.
What do these statistics signify? - that most mutual dreams
occur to 40-year-old married women homemakers who have no children
and a high school education? Hardly. But the survey does suggest that
we may all have more psychic abilities than we give ourselves credit
for. We come from all walks of life, all age groups, and all
educational levels.
There were close correlations between the number of those who
had shared dreams and the number of participants keeping dream
journals
- but comparing them individually, there was not a significant
connection.
Mutual dreams tend to occur between close relations, spouses,
parents and children, close friends - however, as some of the answers
indicate, a few of the dreamers responding to this survey also relate
mutual or shared dreams with others not so close to them, and one was
with someone unknown. The biggest problem with documenting shared
dreams
occurs when people don't discuss their dreams. But the added problem
lies within the fact that when dreams are discussed, we rarely share
them with strangers. This is where dream groups on-line have made
breakthroughs.
In addition to the participants of this survey, several examples
of mutual dreams were recorded by people unknown to me, at various
dream
sites. I have no doubt the numbers will increase. These dreamers are
otherwise anonymous, except where one can glean tidbits of
information
from their postings.
I must mention since many people asked, that question #20 about
bodily
functions awakening people, was included as a hint at lucidity.
In my own experiences, my 'only' lucid dreams occur when I'm telling
myself in a dream, "You're dreaming, wake up and go to the bathroom!"
Since my interests lie with shared dreaming, I didn't pursue this too
deeply.
This survey, and other research about mutual dreams, shows that
sharing dreams with another individual is not only possible, but if
we pay attention and discuss our dreams, it may be much more common
than we think.
I wish to extend my appreciation again to all the dreamers.
May you continue to share sweet dreams! Thank you, Julie Keyser
keyser@mwt.net
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Easy Dreams:
Making Nightmares Pay (Part II)
by
Anthony Dubetz
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Its just around the corner and you have no place to hide. It knows
where you are, follows you relentlessly and reads your mind. eeeek!
And then you wake up. It was a nightmare and now you really would
like to talk to someone. Who to Call?
Anthony Dubetz, author of EASY DREAMS has a special phone line just
for you! the Dream Hot line in Chicago (312) 589-2471 has been
helping those puzzled by dreams for several years.
"the Main thing is what your think about your dream", he says, " That
is, what you must eliminate the next day." Overused parts of the
personality leave other parts neglected. "Maybe your dream is
actually telling you that you've reached a burn-out level in your
personality. the dream might be getting a little scarier every day -
it may be shouting at you."
Now Anthony is making his dream wisdom available to readers of
Electric Dreams and will be online answering questions about ideas
and particular dreams on the ed-core mail list.
If you would like to see the whole text complete,
1. you can
get Tony's text, _Easy Dreams- Making Nightmares Pay_, a 41 page
booklet fully explaining The Dream Hot-Line method available for
$6.00 send to Anthony Dubetz, P.O. Box 34934, Chicago IL 60634
2. Or visit his site at www.dreamgate.com/dream/dubetz/
3. Or keep reading Electric Dreams over the next few months!
Note: Page numbers kept in place that correspond to the
Printed book. Re-print permission by Anthony Dubetz.
For PART I: refer to the above or Electric Dreams vol 3 # 2 Feb
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Easy Dreams: Making Nightmares Pay :
You're out of your element. That's what we believe happens in a
dream. Part of your soul, spirit, aura, etc. leaves your body
(element) while you sleep and interacts with the collective spirit of
your environment.
The part that leaves is your weakest part. Therefore, when you
see it you've got a good idea of what you should avoid becoming when
you wake up. If you can avoid becoming like your weakness, you will
be strong. Also, your dream travels ahead in time toward the
direction of your momentum. Because of this you have at least 24
hours notice of your own future. The next day you will be in for a
close encounter with that future. Remain the way you were in your
dream and that encounter will be deja vu.
Now that you know why we recommend you avoid becoming like your
dream but instead remain the way you were in your dream, you're ready
to read the method. When you've discovered your dream's momentum and
you'd prefer to travel your own path instead, I've personally taken
to trying the path out to the right or left of my dream's
geographical location (from where I dreamt the dream.) For example,
if my dream was of a place North of where I slept, I find myself
feeling stronger to the East or West. Good deja vu to you and
pleasant dreams.
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See part I
www.dreamgate.com/dream/dubetz/
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II. The Impression
Now that you've got a pretty good idea of what the middle of your
dream looks like and you have found that middle in a number of
examples with my help and on your own, here is step II, the dreamer's
impression of the middle. Supposing a symbol of the middle in your
dream were a door. A door by definition is a passageway between two
areas. But now suppose the door is locked; you can't find your key;
there's no one home to let you in and you can hear your phone
ringing! You know it's an important call you've been expecting. Look
through the window. See your keys there on the floor near the door?
Great! You found your keys but they're on the wrong side of the door.
You pound the door with your fist as the last telephone ring becomes
a memory.
Now that door is a middle symbol because it separates what you want
from where you are. It also creates the strongest impression. The
door is more than just a passage between two areas. It's an obstacle
to an important telephone communication. The door has become a
subjective impression, OBSTACLE. Only by remembering how you felt
about it when you dreamt about it can you properly evaluate the
impression you will need for step two. What was that impression of
the door while you were dreaming it? Do you remember? What a damnable
obstacle. That impression is what step two is all about. Once you've
a wakened you can be influenced by your surroundings and not the
dream. The middle symbol then is like a fish out of water. What you
thought about the middle in its own real ity, dream reality, is
what's important. That's the impression you look for. Example:
I dreamt I felt blood on my hand
and realized I had been shot in
the head. I can't see the gunman
and I feel no pain.
What is the middle symbol? Is it the blood, the
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gunman, or the shot? What do you choose? The middle symbol is the
blood. It holds the gunman and the wound in common and also creates
the strongest impression. What now was the dreamer's impression of
the blood? The impression, if you choose correctly, is "it's no real
pain." It's no real pain; that's what the dreamer thought of the
blood when he realized he was bleeding. Try an other example.
I'm watching my father milk a
cow when the farmer whom he
works for and who owns the
cow starts shouting at my
father, telling him his work is
not good enough to keep him
around. You think the work
is fine and can't see any justi-
fication for the farmer's inter-
ference.
Awake.
What is the dreamer's impression of the middle? Think about it.
First find the middle. Isn't it the farmer? He hold
the father and the cow in common and creates the strongest
impression. What then is the impression the dreamer had
of the middle, the farmer? The impression in then interfering. Are
you beginning to catch on? How about this one?
I am standing in the deserted
ruins of a city all alone. The
ruins are all around me end-
lessly in every direction. I
must walk them alone.
To interpret this dream you must find the middle and the dreamer's
impression of it. Take your time. How did you do? Did you pick the
ruins for the middle? All di- rections were mentioned and what held
them in common? It was ruin. The ruin of the place seemed to create
the strongest impression for this dreamer. His impression of the
ruins of the city was what? Read the dream again. His
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impression was, "I must walk them alone." The ruins im pressed him,
the dreamer, with loneliness. Loneliness is the impression in this
dream.
What impression is given about the middle of this dream?
The dreamer is in a field watch-
deer grazing and they look peace-
ful, and this makes the dreamer
feel happy. So he decides to
leave well enough alone, turns
around and walks away. The
deer then show their teeth and
turn on him. They surround and
attack him and tear at his flesh.
The dreamer is confused and
hurt.
This dream seems to be filled with impressions. Which one is the one
we are looking for? It's the impression of the middle of the dream of
course. We have in this dream a great change of moods from peaceful
grazing deer to at- tacking man-eating deer. What happened in the
middle of these of these two different moods? Try to remember. The
dreamer decided to leave the deer alone, thinking their mood was so
good he would certainly not want to stay any long er for he might
scare them or distract them. He said leave well enough alone. He
turned around, and so did the mood of the dream and the deer in it.
This turning around was the middle of the dream. The dreamer turned
around thinking well enough should be left alone. That's the
impression we want. The impression of well enough was that it should
be "left alone." "Left alone" is as crystallized as we can make the
impression. Are you beginning to see how we must choose the proper
impression of the middle? Keep prac ticing with two in a row now.
I'll save my comments till aft- er the second dream has been read.
Try it alone for now.
I.
I dreamed I saw a cat who had
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a clutching grip on my arm and
wouldn't let go.
II.
I dreamed I saw a brown atta-
ché case open with two com
partments inside. I thought the
case was very nice but nothing special."
What were the two impressions these dreams gave? First choose the
middle and then decide what the dream er's impression of the middle
was. Did you try to use the dreamer's exact words in describing the
middles? That is always the easiest way to describe the middle's im .
pression. Use the dreamer's own words. Using the dreamer's own words
gets the dreamer more deeply in volved with the interpretation, and
after all, it is his or her dream, isn't it?
In dream number one we had a cat with a clutching grip that wouldn't
let go. The difference between the cat's arm and the dreamer's arm
was the grip. The grip is the middle symbol here and the impression
of that grip was that it was clutching and wouldn't let go.
"Clutching" is the impression. Is that what you chose?
In dream number two we had an attachÄ case with two compartments
inside. The whole case was the middle symbol because it held two
different compart ments inside together in common. The dreamer
thought that this case was very nice but "nothing special." "No thing
special" is the impression. How did you do?
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I dreamed I was in an adult
education class at a night
school. I had my admittance
card to class. The class was
very crowded and after the
teacher called the names I want-
ed him to know he forgot my
name. I tried to show him my
admittance card but he didn't
seem to pay it any mind. I
thought to myself, "This card
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should have been good enough."
I won't tell you my choice for impression of the middle in the dream
I just related, but I will tell you the middle was the admittance
card. You decide what the impres- sion of that card was. Remember,
let the dreamer give you the answer.
Here are three dreams in a row. This time, as you did in chapter one,
commit your decision as to what the im pressions of these dreams are
by actually writing them down either in the book or on a separate
paper. Make your choices carefully.
I.
I dreamt I went back to my old
neighborhood to say goodbye
to everyone. I went from place
to place wanting to see the old
gang whom I had good times with.
It was snowing all the while and
it was slowing me down and hin-
dering my going from place to
place.
II.
I dreamt I was turning off the
kitchen light and closing the
door with a key. All of a
sudden I felt something open
the door and I fell to the
kitchen floor. There was no
one in the room. My family
came in and wouldn't believe
what happened. Later on my
sister saw the kitchen door
close and believed me. She
asked me how I was going to
sleep and I told her I didn't
know. "Put on your gear," she
said, and I woke up scared.
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III.
I dreamt there was a corridor
leading from a street to a
cave. People who entered the
corridor vanished and I knew
they were destroyed.
Were you able to find the impressions of the middle symbols in those
three dreams? Did you write them down or are you going to trust your
memory? Very well. Here are my choices. Compare yours to see how
close we are thinking.
In dream number one, the dreamer was saying goodbye to his old
neighborhood going from house to house. From house to house tells me
there is a place between these houses. That is where we should look
for the middle sym bol. The dreamer said there was something between
his trips. Remember the snow? The snow is the middle sym bol. The
impression it gave our dreamer was that it slowed him down; it
hindered him. The impression of dream num ber one is therefore
hindrance. Is that the choice you made?
In dream number two, the dreamer was about to close a door when
something opened the door causing the dream er to fall in a faint to
the floor. Her family didn't believe the story but when the door
closed her sister believed her and told her to get away. The symbol
between people be lieving her and not believing her was what opened
and closed the door. That symbol is the middle. The impres sion that
middle symbol gave was one of fear. The im pression of the middle
symbol scared the dreamer into a faint and scared her into awakening.
The impression therefore in dream two is, scary. What was your
choice?
In the last dream of this series, dream number three, a corridor
between a street and a cave should immediately strike you as the
middle symbol. Any description of be tweenness is your signal that
this is the middle symbol. Now, what did the dreamer get from this
corridor? He got the impression that the corridor was destroying
people. The impression in dream number three is "de stroying."
The three impressions of these dreams were: I. hindrance, II. scary,
and III. destroying. Did your choices for impressions compare with
mine in any way?
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Two out of three isn't bad. If you didn't do as well as you thought
you should have, don't be discouraged. There are many more examples
we can do together and still some examples you can try on your own.
In every dream you dream yourself you should be trying to find the
middle and your impression of it. Remember, if you are going to or
already have tried this method on a friend's dream, your friend's
impression of the middle is what you want, not yours. Every dream is
a personal message and only the dreamer's impression of the middle
symbol is important. Here's an easy one.
I saw my brother's twin babies
change to grown children before
my very eyes. I was worried
about this.
The change is what is between the babies and the children. The
dreamer was worried about this change. The impression is worrisome.
Try the following dream all by yourself and I'll give you a clue.
It's not the lady in the dream, but something about her.
She was about twenty-two and
plump, not fleshy, not fat, but
merely rounded and not bad look-
ing. She had on only one piece of
clothing. A very long shirt like a
night shirt. It was coarse.
Do you think you figured that one out? Of course it wasn't
hard. This one might be, though.
I saw a snowy desert with a
yellow strip of hardly distinguish-
able road stretched across it and
on this road marched an empty
: pair of boots.
The following dream was dreamt by a boy with a
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crush on an older woman who unfortunately died in a drowning
accident.
I saw her in the earth where
she had been now for years.
Her dress had rotted away.
Shreds of cloth merged with
dry bones while the strand
of hair that used to slip down
over her cheek was stuck fast
to her skull.
We have here an image of a woman, but something on her person is the
middle symbol. Can you figure it? Shreds of cloth merged with dry
bones. Between the cloth and the bone was a mergin. Between her hair
and her skull was a sticking fast. These are the impressions we need
to know: merging, sticking. That was a tricky one, wasn't it? The
next dream is pretty straight for ward.
I'm in a prison break and me
and my fellow prisoners take
a guard hostage. We got the
son of a bitch but he won't
talk to the police outside to
negotiate a deal. He just
grits his teeth and smiles
smugly.
The hostage is the middle because he is the go-between for the
prisoners and the police. The impression he gives is one of smugness.
That is what we want, the word smugness. That's the impression.
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Dreams and The Lunar Cycle
Randy Wasserstrom
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Reprinted by permission of Randy Wasserstrom
from a previous printing in Innerchange, a NC, USA. new age journal:
Dreams and astrological symbols show us the same themes -
demonstrating how that the psyche is an undivided whole from we draw
our wisdom. Dreams are most directly connected to the lunar cycle-
the most immediate of the astrological rhythms. By looking at the
current position of the moon in its sign and house in our
astrological birthchart, we can correlate similar themes from dreams
which occur at the same time of this cycle. Through this process of
connecting dreams with the cycle of the moon, we can become clearer
about our inner patterns and rhythms.
Moon in Sagittarius, 7th house, 2-2-97
I'm at a small gathering honoring Jimmy Stewart. It's outside in
someone's back yard at night. I think it's a guy hosting the event.
There's maybe 10-15 people there. A younger Jimmy Stewart seems to be
there and later the older, current Jimmy shows up and the host is
going to introduce me but he never does. At one point, there's
dancing and I envy the people dancing because of their
free-spiritedness.
This is one of my dreams which illustrates the dream/lunar cycle
connection. In this dream, the theme is that of *free spiritedness*,
which is also reflected by the moon in the sign of Sagittarius - the
astrological sign which has the same meaning. Additionally, the moon
is my seventh house in my personal astrological birthchart and this
is the house of relationships. So another dimension to the dream and
to the lunar cycle is that I am seeking free spiritedness in
relationships.
Here is another example:
Moon in Cancer, 3rd house ,10-31-96,
I am riding a bike on a road at night and Jay Leno comes up on my
left, also riding a bike. Both of us are whizzing along above the
ground. To my right is a vista of the sky. I see a full moon flash
across it -- very powerful and dramatic. Then I look again and see
the full moon turn into the sun against a bright blue sky. Very
powerful.
This dream has that lunar feel- very emotional, personal and
intuitive. Just the description of moon in cancer. The full moon
itself is a literal symbol of the moon and the lunar cycle. This is
also a "message" dream in that I'm getting a message about my life
through the metaphors of the moon, sun and sky. Also, this dream is
about transformation, new beginnings. Messages are represented by the
third house (house of information) in my astrological birthchart.
And another example:
Moon in Aries, 11th house. 1-14-97.
I am with a female friend/mentor in Israel. We are going over the
family history book I am about to publish by experiencing the actual
places of my family history. At one point, we reach a crossroads of a
country road and she playfully takes my arm and starts dancing. I am
startled.
This dream has that action-oriented, experimental feel which is
characteristic of aries. We are on an adventure - risking and
challenging and the passion and spontaneity of aries is shown in the
last scene with the dancing. The moon is also in my 11th house of
friendships and I am with an inspirational friend (aries) who in
waking life also sparks me to write this book.
In each of these examples then, we can see the connection between
dreams and the lunar cycle as mirrors of the psyche and its current
themes. These themes are reflecting back to us what we are learning
at the moment and over time. Dreams and astrological symbols are
presenting to us the same themes - showing that the psyche is
composed of multiple aspects.
Randy Wasserstrom is a professional astrologer and tarot counselor in
Raleigh. He offers birthcharts, current events and relationships and
also teaches classes on astrological subjects. He can be reached at
randwass@aol.com
Thanks!
Randy
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DIVINE MESSAGES COLUMN:
" DIVINE REALM "
Dr. D
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Dear Fellow Dreamers,
having noticed that many of you are totally lost, in
my point of view in the dream realm, mainly because you have been
misguided by quite uninspired persons such as Jung and Freud and
possibly other blind teachers, I thought that you may find it
interesting to shed a bit of light in this presently shady field.
Actually, I find it rather interesting to realize
that the so-called intellectual elites of a so-called advanced
civilization... know much less about dreams than the average tribal
so-called "savages" of so-called primitive societies of the jungles
of Australia, Africa and South-America!
These all know, that dreams occurred when the soul,
momentarily separated from the body and can enter in direct
communication with spirits of the ancestors, ghosts of the deads and
gods.
OK! the Knowledge of the Ancient Wisdom... has been
around for tens of thousands of years and all the Old Civilizations
have known the secrets of the Other World.... which we regularly
visit in Dreams.... which is the Key #1 to the good understanding of
the messages enclosed in them.
For instance, the Celts firmly believed, that the
Sidh, the Other World, which the Irish people still call as such
this invisible world of the Fairies, ("ban shee", Bean Sidhe = Fairy
Woman), or the Sidhe, in general, which are the inhabitants of the
Spiritual World, and this World itself, manifest themselves to the
living flesh beings in the concrete reality of dreams... as stated by
so many who also knew ...like the Prophet Mohammed, for instance.
" Now Allah has created the dream not only as a means of guidance
and instruction, I refer to the true dream, but he has made it as a
Window on the World of the Unseen. "
Now, this is very simple to understand, and goes perfectly
well along with other inspiring words which hold other keys... in
regards to the correct understanding of this realm....
" And He said, " Hear now my words: If there be a prophet
among you, I , the Lord, will make Myself known to him in a vision,
and will speak unto him in a dream."
Words of the Lord of the Universe revealed to Moses, Aaron and
Miriam.... and preserved in Numbers 12.6
...and realize that God himself speaks into the dreams of
everyone, even his own....
" He, who does not believe in the true dream, does not
believe in Allah nor in the Day of Reckoning."
(Most important words of Mohammed.)
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" For the Days of the Lord are coming..... . And it shall come
to pass afterward, saith God, that I will pour out my Spirit on all
flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men
shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.
Even on my servants and handmaidens I will pour out, in those
days, my Spirit; and they shall prophesy."
Words of the Lord himself revealed to the prophet Joël
preserved in Joël 2.28-30 in the Old Testament and, due to their
crucial importance, repeated in the New Testament in Acts 2.16-18.
......... so what he says simply means that since people will
prophesy, that people of the whole earth will get to be able to
interpret their own dreams.... because they will receive teachings
from the #1 Interpreter... as stated, by Joseph, in Genesis 40,8, in
reply to the cupbearer and baker of the Pharaoh....who could not
find anyone to interpret their dreams.
" Do not dreams' interpretations belong to God? Tell me you
dreams."
Oh! I understand that for poor materialistic mortals that
this will sound totally ridiculous... but that is the way that it
works, and to illustrate, let me show you with some concrete
examples, the applied science of the art of dream interpretation.
As an introduction, let's take the dream of...
Victoria Quinton <mermaid@alphalink.com.au>
Subject: "She'll be apples" dream
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998
"During the late afternoon, I was walking with my family around our
orchard full of apple trees laden with ripe fruit.
We were staying in the country, at my father's "estate". The
saxaphone player from INXS was with us for the evening meal.
He seemed a sad man who didn't know his own value.
We were all avoiding the issue of Michael Hutchence, whose ghost I
could see behind him."
...which is quite an interesting dream, because this orchard of
Apples, just happens to be the Garden of the Hesperides, a fabulous
garden located at the extremities of the Occident, which was visited
by many, one of which was Hercules, in one of his twelve famous
laborious exploits.
Interestingly, Victoria, says that this Orchard belongs to her
father, but in the universal realm of dreams this Garden is the
property of our Heavenly Father. Also, for your kind info, the word
Apple is derived from Apollo, the legendary Immortal Greek God of
Knowledge, another Rider of Pegasus. So, you could say that you are
in the Celestial Garden of Apollo!
Surprisingly, in this dream, there are the Ghosts of the
Livings such as the ones of Victoria, herself, and also of Kirk
Pengilly, the saxopnonist of INXS, and also of departed Michael K.
Hutchence, the lead singer of the world renowned group, who hanged
himself on November 27th 1997.
Strangely enough, the last INXS album was entitled "Elegantly
Wasted" and contained songs like..." Don't Lose Your Head"... "I'm
Just A Man"... "Searching"..."Everything" and "Show Me"..."Girl of
Fire" and "Shake The Tree"! Just to say that, the inspiration was
quite profound.
In any case, the interesting fact is to realize that in
the dream realm, ghosts of the Living meet with ghosts of the
Departed and this is exposed in the story of Herakles/Hercules in
which he had to fight many antagonists before he was able to cross
the Sea in the boat or chariot of the Sun-God and finally reached the
Hesperides, where he had to slay the Dragon "Ladon", who was guarding
the entrance to the Garden of the Apples of Gold. Then, shaking the
Tree, he gathered the Apples of immortality and ended up giving them
to the ghost of Athena, one of his own ghosts of his previous human
incarnation, as she had also flown on Pegasus, the Chariot of the
Sun-God, ...and she, in turn, simply put them back where they were
before... just in case someone would come and need to pick them up
in the future.
There is another version of this story, in which it is said that
Atlas, helped Heracles in his enterprise. It was agreed between them
that Hercules would charge himself of supporting the world on his
shoulders, while Atlas would go and pick the Apples... the fruits of
Tree of Life of Apollo.
Anyways, this is just a rapid interpretation to show you that
we remain after death, in an immortal spiritual form, analogous and
exactly identical to your own material form...whether you like it or
not!
Actually talking about them, Christianism is the only religion
which does not conceived that the souls after death would have a body
to live in, although the Apostles, who having seen the Holy Ghosts
of Jesus spoke about them ghostly celestial bodies... like Paul, to
the Corinthians... for example. And look, this is nothing new, and
you can read about them Imperishable Celestial Resurrection Bodies
in 1 Corinthians 15, 35 to 55...
" But someone may ask, " How are the Deads raised?
With what kind of body will they come?"
"How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies."
"So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is
sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable... it is sown a natural
body, it is raised a
spiritual body."
"So, it is written: "The first man Adam was a living being, and
the last Adam, a life-giving Spirit." The spiritual did not come
first, but the natural did, and after that the spiritual. The first
man was from the dust of the earth, the second man from Heaven."
" I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the Kingdom of God...."
" Listen, I tell you a Mystery: We will not all sleep, (...some
will awake...)
but we will all be changed - in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last
trumpet."
" For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised
imperishable, and we will be changed."
" When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and
the mortal with immortality, then the saying that was written will
come true :
"Death has been swallowed up in Victory!"
Therefore, Victoria, I think that you missed a wonderful
opportunity, you should have gone to Michael and asked him to sing a
wonderful song for you all... and other Celestial Musicians would
have followed....like Janis (Joplin)... Freddy (Mercury)... John
(Lennon)... and Elvis...doing vocals... along with Jimmy
(Hendrix)...and Brian (Jones) on Citar...and so many others, that
you believe to be dead, mixing their heavenly inspired music with
the Living Deads.. and playing "Beetlejuice"!
And, of course, all of this, under the careful super-vision of
Lord Krishna, one of the famous Immortal Winged-Horse Rider,
orchestrating, once again the philharmony of the Celestial Song...
the Bhagavad-Gita.
"Having pervaded the Universe with a part of myself, I remain!"
So, will it be for you all, after you die, you will all be
transformed into immortal ghosts, which will appear in dreams, to
humans in the future, possibly to your own future incarnations,
nothing to be afraid of, nor try to avoid... as these "Ripe Gold
Dreamland Ghost Apples" are our greatest rewards...
" Do not be afraid, Abraham, I am your shield and your very
great reward." said the Lord to Abraham in a vision of the night, as
reported in Genesis 15.1
....because they are our Promised Resurrection Bodies which will
dwell for eternity in the Promised Land, and the time of Harvest is
drawing near!
Now, do you see Victoria... you have to care for ghosts and
your after-life Ghostly Health....
"Thou shalt understand that it is a Science most profitable,
and passing all other sciences, for to learn to die. .... I shall
give thee the Mystery of this Doctrine ; the which shall profit thee
greatly to the beginning of Ghostly Health, and to a stable
fondament of all virtues." (Orologium Sapientiae- from "The Book of
the Craft of Dying" ... Comper's Edition)
In the same trend, let me now, carry on this expose with the
interpretations of the equally excellent dreams of Barbro Nygren...
a very inspired dreamer from Sweden.... and you will see that we
don't just get to meet fresh departed musicians but other well known
figures from the remote past.
Dream 1
"Meet the stone people, their village was shaped as an circle and in
verge of this circle there was statues and sculptures that changed
itself when I turned me around in the circle. Lizards, turtles and
statues of women in black. The people didn't want to have worldly
things into their society, so I have to leave my belongings in a
stone, outside a gate. That was a drawingpad, water-colours, brushes
and a pocket book. I thought hitchhike back.
What's interesting in this dream are that the statues is moving, I
had a previous dream where the statues was stiffed."
In my point of view, you are in Heaven, because you had to
leave your worldly possession out there by the Gate....as we don't
bring nothing there except our souls, our minds, our animas, but
here in the Celtic or Germanic part of Heaven... because the way
things are arranged in this circular fashion, but yet, having not
seen them "Stones" because they have depending on the regions
different symbols, such as stars, spirals, and primitive letters,
like the 19 S's of the name of Thor...I can only say that they are "
Stones of Remembrance"... which can still be found in Ireland,
Britain, Spain, Gaul and in Scandinavia... mainly in Sweden!...and
which were usually called "Menhirs", "Dolmens" or "Runeic Stones" or
simply "Runes"... but, still, I presume that you were in the
Teutonic or Scandinavian Heavens... because of your present
vicinity.
Regardless, you were asked to leave your most precious
belongings... which are your relics...that were a drawingpad,
water-colours, brushes and a pocket book...indicating that you were
a painter and a writer... in those days, and as I said earlier that
Statues would walk and talk, Paintings would come alive, History
would come back to life... your dream of them stiff Statues which
begin to move...is reminiscent of that nature. I just happen to have
others in this category... but we are short of space at the moment.
Now, these Statues are no common mortal statues, they usually
are Gods and Goddesses of the Past, which were immortalized as such,
and in their days all we had at our disposal to preserve the memory
of our testimonies for thousands of years were simply chisels to
carve the rock,... brushes to paint,... pencils to write... and we
did what we could to illustrate the fruits of our precious knowledge
and landmarks in this field of dreams relating to the Liberation of
our Souls...which came from the powerful knowledge in regards to our
previous lives!
How do you want to claim of the immortality of the soul otherwise?
Anyways, in our Times and turn of Ages, it was prophesied by
many that the gods would come back and walk again, one more time,
among men ...as stated by all the Prophets...and preserved in the
prophecies contained in all the Holy Scriptures around the World....
even Nostradamus
1,91- Les Dieux feront aux humains apparence.
Ce qu'ils seront autheurs de grand conflit.
1,91- The Gods will make to humans appearance.
The Authors of a great conflict they will be.
2,13- Le corps sans ame plus n'estre en sacrifice,
Jour de la mort mis en nativite:
L'Esprit divin fera l'ame felice,
Voyant le Verbe en son eternite.
2,13- The body without soul, no more is in sacrifice,
On the Day of Death, put in Nativity.
The Divine Spirit will put the soul in bliss,
Seeing the Verb in his Eternity.
In any case, dear Barbro, your name is somewhere written in
the language of the Runes... and since you are a Daughter of the
Sun... I think that you will be able to recognize what you wrote in
the past,...on one of them placed in circle "Runic Stones" of
possibly Roek, Lund (Forest) or even Haelsingland...in Sweden, as
these are your "Time Stepping Stones".
Now, the Turtle...or Tortoise... is the symbol of longevity
which has been exposed, for example by the Immortal Chinese Lord of
Longevity... T'cheou-Hsing... who is one of the 3 Gods of
Happiness...3 historical personages which were deified after their
mortal deaths. He is always accompanied by a Turtle and a Pine Tree.
According to Chinese Mythology, this Lord of Longetivity,
decides upon the time of death of each individual, which he writes
in advance on his tablets of the Celestial Records. (Encyclopedia of
Mythology)
And to tell you honestly, at the time of the Tertiary... the
light was also shining, but it was a primitive struggle between the
slow rock form and the fast human form... and since humans were not
yet created... in those days, God assumed the form of a Turtle, as
exposed in the Rig-Vedas.... and other places and was known as the
Tortoise Avatara, the second of all Avatars of Vishnu.... following
the Fish Avatara.
In this incarnation of Vishnu, in order to save the World, he
took the form of a giant Turtle and got underneath the Mandara
Mountain which was sinking into the sea. is huge back served as a
base on which the Mountain could pivot. Out of the churning of the
Ocean, came the Nectar that brought immortality and power to the
Gods. (Iconography of Hindus, Buddhist and Jains, p.29)
Would you like me to call Darwin? The Lizard... is coming after...
and Barbro, if you need a ride back, don't worry if you decide to
hitch-hike because I go back and forth everyday on my Winged-Horse
and will be pleased to pick you up anytime.
Dream 2.
"I searches after the eternal stone, the eternal city, the universe,
the eternal diamond. Searches in a wild hunting at all the places I
have been on and lived at. Undefinable dangers as all along cheats,
entices and misleads. When I at last find the sparkling diamond and
senses and views it in my palm, I see the gateway to the unknown, but
I also want that my companion shall follow with. It's a summer
evening. The companion is a monk but with its hood latent over his
face and he comes walking, far, far away in the fields. I jump up and
down, yells at the monk "hurry on". But the monk displays no hurry."
OK! this is the good stone... the Stone of the foundation
of the eternal city.... of the universe ... the eternal diamond. So
many Dangers, Entices and Misleads... the present world! But,
finally the Jewel...
In the present immortal time reference... there is only one
Jewel in the Whole Universe which has these properties... and it is
fully described in a 2,500 years old story...which tells about the
Jewel of the Universal Monarch...
The best narrative illustration of the powers of this most
fantastic Jewel can be found in "The Jatakas".....in the Vidhura
Pandita Jataka... #545 Vol.VI , book XII, p.127 to 156.... or in
your language, if you prefer, may be translated as " Stories of the
Buddha's Former Births", translated by H.T.Francis, Cambridge and by
various hands, under the editiorship of Professor E.B.Caldwell,
published in 1973, by the Pali Text Society, London, with the
collaboration by the UNESCO Collection of Representative
Works......just to know where it comes from...and beginning by a
dream, goes something like this...
" Now on that very day on morning-tide (I love those Indian words)
the King saw a dream, and this is what he saw. At the door of the
King's palace there stood a Great Tree... whose trunk was Wisdom,
and whose branches and boughs were like Virtues, and its fruits the
five sacred products of the Holy Cow, and it was covered with
Elephants and Horses richly caparisoned; and a great multitude with
folded hands were worshiping it with all reverence.
Then a man, clothed in red cloth, and wearing hearings
of red flowers, and bearing weapons in his hand, came up and cut the
tree down by the roots in spite of the expostulations of the
multitude, and dragged it off and went away, and then came back and
planted it again in its old place and departed.
Then the King as he comprehended the dream said to himself, " The
sage Vidhura and no one else is like the Great Tree; that youth and
no other, who carried off the sage, is like the man who cut the tree
down by the roots in spite of the expostulations of the multitude;
and verily he will come back and set him at the door of the Hall of
Thruth and depart. We shall behold the Seer again today."
So he joyfully ordered the whole city to be decorated and the
Hall of Thruth to be got ready and a pulpit in a pavillion adorned
with jewels; and himself surrounded by a hundred kings, with their
counsellors, and a multitude of citizens and country people, he
consoled them all by saying, " Fear not, you will see the Sage again
to-day", and he seated himself in the Hall of Thruth, looking for
the Sage's return."
In this very long but very good story of one of the lives of
Buddha, the Buddha tells about his life as Vidhura when he soared in
the Air with the Winged- Horse...to obtain the Fabulous Jewel...
which would allow him to obtain the hand of a beautiful princess.
In the story, Vidhura is a poor guy, and in order to receive
some respect from the King... he decides to use the name of a
previous incarnation... Punnakha...who himself had also flown on the
Winged-Horse and had obtained the Jewel of the Universal Monarch. ...
all in perspective that the Buddha, that we know, also flew on the
Winged-Horse.
But, being poor, he also decides to challenge the King to play a
gambling game... in which he will bet his own Winged-Horse which is
the most fantastic Jewel of the World.
" Punnaka, having mounted his horse, a charger fit for bearing
the gods, himself richly adorned... went through the Sky!" (132)....
actually it looks as if Punnaka obtained his "charger with ears of
gold and hooves of ruby, and mail-armour of molten gold" from Varuna
( the other one which flew on the Winged-Horse!) ... and goes to
see Kuvera... (the Horse-Headed God).... before going to get that
glorious Jewel of the Universal Monarch.
"Now there is a precious jewel of price belonging to the Universal
Monarch, in the Vepulla Mountain ....
" When he saw the glorious precious gem thus flashing light,
gleaming so splendidly with its beauty, shining like lightning in
the sky,- he at once seized the precious lapis lazuli, the jewel of
priceless value, and mounted on his peerless steed, himself of noble
beauty, he rushed through the space in the Sky!" (134)
And then he went to the King and presented himself to him under the
name of a previous life...and said that he was Punnaka... and
offered the King to gamble for the Jewel of the Universal Monarch.
"This is a fascinating jewel of mine, it is a glorious jewel which
brings wealth:
and the gamester who conquers me shall win this peerless steed which
plagues all enemies."
When the King heard him, he replied:
" What will one Jewel do, O Youth? and what will one thoroughbred
avail? Many precious jewels belong to a King, and many peerless
steeds swift like the wind."
When he heard the King's speech, he said, "O King, why dost thou say
this? There is one Horse, and there are also a thousand and a hundred
thousand horses ; there is one Jewel, and there are also a thousand
jewels; but all the horses put together are not equal to this one,
see what its swiftness is."
So saying, he mounted the Horse and galloped it along the
top of a wall, and the city wall seven leagues in length was as it
were surrounded by horses striking neck against neck, and in the
course of time neither horse nor Yakkha (Ghost-Rider) could be
distinguished, and a single strip of red cloth tied on his belly
seemed to be spread out all round the wall.
Then he alighted from the Horse, and, telling him that he
had now seen the Steed's Swiftness, he bade him mark something new :
and lo he made the Horse gallop within the city garden on the
surface of the water, and he leapt without wetting his hoofs; then
he made him walk on the leaves of the lotus beds, and when he
clapped his hand and stretched out his arm the Horse came and stood
upon the palm of his hand. Then he said, "This is indeed a Jewel of
a Horse!"
"It is indeed, O Youth!"
"Well, let the Jewel of
the Horse be put on side for a while, - see
now the Power of the Precious Jewel."
"O Greatest of Men, behold this peerless Jewel of Mine ; in it are
the (spiritual) bodies of women and the bodies of men ; the bodies
of beasts are in it and the bodies of birds, the Naga Kings and
suppanas, - all are created in this Jewel."
"An Elephant Host, a Chariot Host, Horses, foot-soldiers, and
banners, - behold this complete army created in the Jewel;
elephant-riders, the king's body-guard, warriors fighting from
chariots, warriors fighting from foot, and troops in battle array, -
behold all created in this Jewel.
"See, on the slopes of the mountains, troops of various deer, lions,
tigers, boars, bears, wolves, and hyenas; rhinoceroses, gayals,
buffaloes, red derr, rurus, antelopes, wild boars, nimkas and hogs,
spotted kadali-deer, cats, rabbits, all kinds of Hosts of Beasts,
created in the Jewel.
(Please note that word Host means in this context...Angel or Spirit!)
" Rivers well situated, paved with golden sand, clear with flowing
waters and filled with quantities of fishes; crocodiles,
sea-monsters are here and porpoises and tortoises...
"Behold created in the Jewel all kinds of trees, filled with various
birds, and a forest with its branches made of lapis lazuli.
" See various troops of birds in the roads under the gateways, geese,
herons, peacocks, ruddy geese and ospreys; cuckoos, spotted birds...
- birds of every sort behold gathered together and created in the
jewel.
" See parks and forests, crags and mountains, pleasant to look at
and full of strange monsters, - all created in the Jewel.
" Behold created in this Jewel a city furnished with solid
foundations and with many gateways and walls, and with many pleasant
spots where four roads meet. Pillars and trenches, bars and bolts,
watch-towers and gates, - behold all created in the Jewel.
" See a marvelous city with grand walls, making the hair stand erect
with wonder, pleasant with banners upraised, and with its sands all
of gold, - see the hermitages divided in blocks, and the different
houses and their yards, with streets and blind lanes between.
" Behold the drinking shops and taverns, the slaughter-houses and
cooks, shops, and the harlots and wantons, created in the Jewel.
The garland-weavers, the washermen, the astrologers, the cloth
merchants, the gold workers, the jewellers - behold created in the
Jewel.
" See drums and tambours, conchs and tambourines and all kinds of
cymbals, created in the Jewel.
" Cymbals and lutes, dance and song well executed, musical
instruments and gongs, behold all created in the Jewel.
" Jumpers and wrestlers too are here, and a sight of jugglers, and
royal bards and barbers, behold created in the Jewel.
" Crowds are gathered here of men and women, see the seats tiers
beyond tiers created in the Jewel.
"See the Sun and the Moon, shining on the four sides, as they go
around Mount Sineru, - all created in the Jewel.
" See the Earth surrounded by the Sea, with water everywhere, and
diversified with trees. See too lakes well distributed in the four
corners, filled with quantities of birds and abounding with fishes
with broad scales, - all created in the Jewel.
"See Sineru and Himavat and the miraculous sea and the four Guardians
of the World - created in the Jewel.
" Indra's Gardens ...and his palace Vejajanta, - behold all created
in the . " Indra's Palace Sudhamma (Sidharma... Spirit of the
Sidh)...the Heaven of the Thirty-Three (Buddhas), the Heavenly Tree
Pariochatta in full flower, and Indra's Elephant Airavata, behold
created in the Jewel.
" See here the maidens of the gods risen like lightning in the air,
and wandering about in the Nandana, - all created in the Jewel.
" See the heavenly maidens bewitching the sons of heaven, and the
sons of heaven wandering about, all created in the Jewel.
" Behold more than a thousand palaces covered with Lapis Lazuli, all
created with brilliant colors in the Jewel.
" And the beings of the Tavatimsa Heaven and the Yama heaven and the
Tusita heaven, and those of the Paranimmita heaven all created in the
Jewel.
" See here pure lakes with transparent water (amrita) covered with
heavenly coral trees and lotuses and water-lilies.
"O King, best of Men, look at this bright flame like Jewel, perfect
in all parts, - this the destined reward for him who wins."
And Vidhura spoke the thruth to the King.... and the text is much
longer... and finally at the end Vidhura wins everything even the
Kingship among all Kings.
And the real Punnaka, gave a signal to the Horse who was endowed
with reason, and he forthwith bounded into the sky, carrying the
Seer.
" The Prince of Horses bearing Vidhura went up into the sky and soon
reached the Kalagiri (Black Mountain) without coming into contact
with the boughs of trees or the rocks."
Anyways, the Story is too long... but finally at the end they say
that ...
" Abiding his teachings, and following their King all the inhabitants
of the Kuru Kingdom gave gifts and performed good works and at the
end of their lives went to swell the hosts of Heaven!"
...... just like our freshly departed singer friend Michael!
And also, finally, the Monk with the Hood, the Hooded Ones, as they
were called by the Celts, are the Knowledge-Holders, the ones which
have reached Buddhahood... like Prince Siddharta Gautama Buddha,
"Siddharta" meaning "The Holy One from the Sidh" who rides the Sindh
Horse or Sidh Horse...and the reason why he is not in a hurry to go
and admire for himself the perfect Jewel... is simply because it is
His... because he is... the Universal Monarch and the Magic Horse is
his Jewel and the reason why on the Luck-Flags of Tibet, the
Airy-Horse is often replaced by a Jewel.
"Om! Mani Padme! Hum! ... Om! The Jewel in the Lotus! Hum!"
Om! The Jewel Horse of Spiritual Birth! Hum!
Dream 3.
I sat in front of a desk, behind sat a man in an jacket, an
scientist. He asked me if the light was organic or tertiary. I said
organic after much thinking. Then he let me out in another time, the
middle ages. The street was paving in pattern. In a house lived a man
that worshipped the sun and inside the city was an big well, in
middle of the well was a fountain. People threw in things or
themselves into the water, so occasionally was the water just mud. A
man climbed up from the well and he wear out the right eye since it
was rotten. Then he began to discuss its experiences.
This is a very interesting dream as it is a Time Travel
Dream... because in the other world there is no time frame... the
past, present and future blend together, and this is why after he
asked you if light was of the organic or tertiary order, therefore
since you answered wrong... you were transported through time...in
what you believed was the Dark Middle Ages.. but actually it was
much further in the past ... but for many centuries it did not
advance much. However, the guy to look for ...would be...the One
Eyed Man who would climb out of the Wishing Well!
Actually, this man is Odin, also known as Wode, Woden,
Wotan... and he has only one eye... and he got his divine
knowledge.... from the fountain of Mimir, the Fountain of Knowledge
and Wisdom, located near the roots of the Giant Tree of Life
Yggdrasil!
You should read about that... and he is climbing out to announce that
he is alive now.
He is the Immortal Sun-God... or a past incarnation of him...
the Source the Fountain of all earthly and heavenly life... from
inspiration to materialization... and he will be glad to tell you
all about his past "Live" experiences.... Listen to the Son-God...
who has came so many times in all civilizations...because....as it is
stated of him as Marduk, in Assyro-Babylonia...
" The Light of the Father which created you,
The Renovator of the Gods,
The Lord of the pure incantation, making live the Deads,
Him who knows the Heart of the Gods,
The Guardian of Justice and Rights,
The Creator of all things,
The First of the totality of the Lords,
The Lord of Kings,
The Shepherd of the Gods...
....and it would be too long at this point to tell
everything about Him,
but, in short, in Assyro-Babylonia, he was known as
"The Swift Horsed-Sun" and to illustrate this, in case you would ever
feel like talking to the Sun... here is the oldest prayer in the
World, which comes from this old religion of the Magis, the world
famous Sun-Priests of Assyro-Babylonia.... and is entitled "Khorshed
Yast"....or "Yast to the Sun" and is extracted from the Zend-Avesta
Part II, pages 85 to 87 and translated by James Damesteter, Motilal
Banarsidass, India.
" YAST TO THE SUN "
" Unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun;
Be propitiation, with sacrifice, prayer, propitiation and
glorification.
The will of the Lord is the Law of Holiness....
1. We sacrifice unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed
Sun.
When the light of the Sun waxes warmer, when the
brightness of the Sun rises up, then up stand the heavenly Yazatas,
by hundreds and thousands: they gather together its Glory, they make
its Glory pass down, they pour its Glory upon the Earth made by
Ahura, for the increase of the World of Holiness, for the increase
of the Creatures of Holiness, for the increase of the undying,
shining, Swift-Horsed Sun.
2. And when the Sun rises up, then the Earth made by Ahura,
becomes clean; the running waters become clean, the water of the
wells become clean, the standing waters become clean; all the holy
creatures, the creatures of the Good Spirit, become clean.
3. Should not the Sun rise up, then the Daêvas would
destroy all the things... that are in the seven Kharvares ( Regions
of the World), nor would the heavenly Yazatas find any way of
withstanding or repelling them in the material world.
4. He who offers up a sacrifice unto the undying, shinning,
Swift-Horsed Sun - to withstand darkness, to withstand the Daêvas
born of darkness.... to withstand Death that creeps unseen - offers
it up to Ahura Mazda, offers it up to the Amesha-Spentas, offers it
up to his own Soul...as he benefits them and himself thereby. He
rejoices all the heavenly and worldly Yazatas, who offers up a
sacrifice unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun.
5. I will sacrifice unto Mithra, the Lord of Wide Pastures,
who has a thousand Ears and ten thousand Eyes.
I will sacrifice unto the club of Mithra, the Lord of
Wide Pastures,
well struck down upon the skulls of the Daêvas.
I will sacrifice unto that friendship, the Best of
all Friendships, that
reigns between the Moon and the Sun.
6. For his Brightness and Glory, I will offer unto Him a
sacrifice worth being heard, namely, unto the undying, shining,
Swift-Horsed Sun. Unto the undying, shining, Swift-Horsed Sun, we
offer up the libations, the Haoma and food, the Beresma, the wisdom
of tongue, the Holy Spells, the Speech, the Deeds, the libations and
the rightly-spoken words.
7. The will of the Lord is the Law of Holiness....
I bless the sacrifice and the invocation, and the
strength and vigor of the undying of the undying, shining,
Swift-Horsed Sun.
Holiness is the best of all good....
Give unto that Man....who is the Swift-Horsed
Sun.... Brightness and Glory, give Him Health of Body....give Him
Wealth.... give Him the bright, all-happy, blissful abode of the Holy
Ones."
Dream 4.
I created immateriella creatures that in its turn created beings and
in its turn created beings. They were lighting points, transparent,
ethereal and alleviated. Several universe was born all along
This is a very powerful dream... the creation of the Spiritual
Worlds which we visit in Dreams... and it has a smell of the Present
Actuality... when the Spirit of God will complete the Creation... by
finally opening the Spiritual Universe for good...once for all.
Dream 9. ( I had to jump a few dreams....)
Dreamed about a barn and there was a threat. The threat was
terrible, more worse than a atomic bomb effect, worse than plague,
starvation and dead. I manage to flee down to people so that they
could phone to the police. All took protection in a house with
glassed-in roof. The threat destroyed everything in its way and
suddenly can I see the threat. The threat are on the roof as a
shadow and I realizes that, the threat do not become dangerously if I
find out what it is. I says to the police to not fire and decides me,
in order to see were the threat takes its way. Goes in to the woods,
to a cottage. On this garden was all possible things, old
automobiles, timber, animals and hens. I see a man that repair an
autocycle and I knows that he is the threat in the barn. Then we
goes besides each other on a way, talking and the feeling is a
calmness.
You see, this dream is once again of the same apparently Scary
Ghosts Nature Issue....and this dream indicates that the Shadows on
the Roof....
" Beware, there are above you watchers! " Coran.
..... and the worst is that all these Shadows all work for the same
guy,.... and these are sent at his wishes to either to please or to
torture as need be required... to demonstrate the existence of the
Eternal Realm.
" Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and will at once put
at my disposal more than twelve legions of Angels. But how then
would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this
way?!" words of Jesus, defending himself in Matthew 26, 53-54.
You see, it works like that... and it is not of my mortal
fault...but on the other side, everybody likes me...because they know
who I am and they respect me for that.
In any case, a friend and disciple of Carl Jung, namely Erich
Neumann, a more brilliant Academic Old Running Shoe went deeper into
this inspirational vein and discovered even more about this
surprising Being which he calls, in his terms, the Great
Individual.... which he attempts to describe, with more or less
success, in a chapter entitled " The Group and the Great Individual"
of the appendices of his book called the Origins and History of
Consciousness, from pages 421 to 435....from which the following
might be some of the best extracts....we have to remember that this
book is a translation from a 1949 german text....
" The phenomenon of the guardian spirit is particularly
interesting because in it we can observe, in collective form, the
act which was normally the experience of the Great Individual
(alone)." (Pg 423)
" Not only is the spirit alive and active in the group
psyche, that is, in the group's unconscious, but these spiritual
phenomena of the collective unconscious manifest themselves in
revelations which are perceived by particularly gifted individuals
who, precisely because they become revelatory bearers of the
transpersonal, prove to be Great Individuals.
The collective unconscious of the group manifests itself by taking
possession of the individual (who is in the process of becoming a
G.I.), whose function is, as an organ of the group, to convey to this
group the content of the unconscious." (423)
" We have, therefore, a whole hierarchy of phenomena
revealing the deep layers of the psyche, and a corresponding
hierarchy of revelation bearers who appear as Great Individuals."
(424)
Very interesting, Mr.Neumann, your theory of
G.I.Joes....
"The G.I., ...., is characterized not only by the fact
that the unconscious content has him in its grip, but by the fact
that his conscious mind also has an active grip on the content (of
the universal collective unconsciousness)." (426)
Now, this was the most important paragraph. After a while he
gets to understand this....and it is true that it works like that.
This is where it would be for anyone really interested to observe
this phenomena, where the ones who believe have pleasant dreams and
the other ones who don't believe have nightmares.... from Night
Mares! I can show you a few good ones.
" For the group member, the GI is primarily the carrier
of projections. The unconscious psychic wholeness of the collective
is experienced in the person of the GI, who is at once the group
self and the unconscious self of each member." (428)
" The GI who breaks away from the anonymity of the
primordial collective is, on the heavenly plane the god-figure, while
on the earthly plane he is the medicine man, chief and god-king."
.....who is somekind of a major treath....the materialists, who base
the value of their lives against material gains...and
disbelievers... for the rest of the people, he represents freedom of
the immortal souls.
The way it works is very simple... you believe in him...you
get eternal life in the Realm where he is the King.... if you don't
...well too bad so sad.
Dream W, 30 August - 1993 (in the afternoon)
"A bus with biologists stopped at my house, they travels around in
order to search for how many greenhouse there are. They plant out a
quantity of plants on the grounds, among others, an Asian pine tree.
The biologist asks how I does with the composting, I told him how and
he nods kindly all along the description. He realized that he don't
need to add something. In the greenhouse have a swallow fled in and a
great tit, but they manage to fly out. The greenhouse change to a
chapel place." "Pine tree: pinus sylvestris, in east Asia regards the
pine tree to be the real "life tree", as at high age appear freshly
and always green."
This is true in Asia this tree is the Tree of Life, as it is
the sacred Tree of the Chinese Lord of Longivity, as mentioned
earlier... but it can be of all species...and it is found in all
faiths as they are the Trees-of -Life of the Universal Monarch... and
claimed to be an attribute of the Pegasus Winged-Horse Rider which
is also repeated in some other Buddhist text... .....from " Buddhism
and Lamaïsm of Tibet, pages 86, 87 & 88.....
"Godly Birth. The God is born at once "fully
developed" within a halo of glory from a lotus flower.- the oriental
symbol of immaterial birth and is provided with the special
attributes of a God, viz, (1) a lotus-footstool, (2) splendid dress
and ornaments,
(3) goddess-companions (Apsaras, celestial nymphs- the "houris"
awarded to heroes.), (4)*** a wish-granting Tree, which instantly
yields any fruit or food wished for, and bends to the hand of the
gatherer, its leaves yielding luscious food, its juice nectar, and
its fruit jewels, (5) a wish-granting cow which yields any drink
wished for, (6) self-sprung crops (usually painted as Indian corn or
maize), ***** (7) in a golden stall... a jewelled
Horse-of-foreknowledge which Pegasus-like carries his rider wherever
wished, through-out the worlds of the past, present, and future,*****
(8) a lake of perfumed nectar or ambrosia (Skt., Amrita) which is the
elixir vitae and the source of the divine lustre. The cup-bearer is
Dhanwantari, the Indian Ganymede. Shining is a peculiarly divine
attribute, and the etymology of the word "divinity", is the root
Div, "to shine", the parent of the Skt. Deva and latin Deus.....The
main thing to understand here is that the god is born "at once fully
developed"...and material birth has nothing to do with Spiritual
Godly Birth.
But, this Tree is everywhere, we saw earlier the Tree of the Buddha,
in the story of Buddha's previous life as Vidhura... and now look at
this one from the Islamic Tradition... but it is everywhere...
This time the story comes from Islam and relates to the
Trees of Paradise which the Muslims call the Garden.... and comes
from a book which I don't even have the title... but is divided into
some 46 short chapters which all begin by "Concerning" this or
that... and the following is from the 45th chapter, from pages 129
to 132...which is entitled "Concerning the Trees and Houris of the
Garden". The Houris are somekind of Fairies and I will expose only
the Trees.
" Ka'b, may Allah be pleased with him, said: " I asked the
Messenger of Allah about the Trees of the Garden", and he, the
Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him, said:
" Their branches do not dry up nor their leaves fall and their
fruits do not vanish. The largest of the trees of the Garden is the
Tree of Tuba. Its roots are of pearl, its trunk of ruby, its
branches of chrysolite, and its leaves of silk
brocade. On it are seventy thousand branches, and these branches are
connected to a leg of the Throne (of Allah). The nearest of its
branches are in the nearest heaven. There is not a room, nor a dome,
nor a tree in the Garden that doesn't have a branch of the Tree of
Tuba shading it. Its roots are in Heaven and its light reaches every
corner. On it are fruits whose rareness is desired in this world,
and which are not in this world."
As Allah-ta'ala said:
"Its clusters nigh to gather, Eat and
Drink with wholesome
appetite, for what you did long ago, in the days gone by."
( Holy Coran, 69:23-24 )
"When the wind blows, the leaves of the Tree strike each other,
and a sound comes from them whose beauty has not been heard. From its
top come out "Robes of Honour" (Immortal Ghostly Spiritual Bodies),
and from its base "Horses with Wings", saddled with saddles inlaid
in pearl and ruby, which do not drop dung nor urinate. The Awliya
(friends) of Allah ride them, and fly with them in the Garden."
" Those who are lower than them will say: " O Lord, for what
reason have you given these "Servants of Yours" this Karama
(Miracle)?"
"So, Allah-ta'ala will say to them: " These are the Ones who
prayed while you were sleeping, fasted while you ate, fought Jihad
while you were sitting with your women, and were spending their
wealth in the Way of Allah while you were miserly."
And so the Prophet, peace be upon him said: " In the Garden is a
Tree, and a Rider (on a Winged-Horse) could travel for one hundred
years in its shade and not pass from it."
As Allah-ta'ala said:
"Have you not regarded your Lord, how he extended the shadows?"
(3:19)
And so the Prophet, peace be upon him said:
" Shall I tell you about an Hour which is most like the Hours of
the Garden? It is the Hour which is before the Rising of the Sun,
when its Shade spreads."
Interestingly, when it comes to the story of Odin, it is said
that his fearsome Horse Sleipnir, which flies in the Sky, loves to
eat in the foliage of this Tree, which it considers as its pasture!
(Encyclopedia of Mythology)
Curiously enough, someone dreamt of that....in a dream posted in
some interpretation I did about some Pregnancy and Baby Dreams....
"Now I was "transformed" a third time, I wasn't the woman any more, I
was myself now and I took care of the two animals while she showed me
her own apartment, we left the horse outside, so he could eat from
something that looked like a Japanese tree, and he liked it."
(Extract from n.019)
So, this is the Tree of life and once you put it, inside your
greenhouse, where you grow your spiritual food, taking your own Tree
of Life, in that place where you get to benefit the most from the
Rays of Sunlight, your place becomes like a chapel.
Dream, Y. 31 august - 1987
"I saw a indian chief that was painted in different colors, yellow,
blue and red. The chief and one more person danced round and round.
The indian chief should go to the worlds of spirits and finally he
rode away on a winged white horse, very calmly and gentle he took off
from the ground and thereafter he was gone. The chief said nothing
during the dream. He had an axe in his hand."
Dream Zzzz...
"I follow the drumbeating and find myself naked in a desert, be like
Mexico. The sand is blowing and it's hot. I have no hat on my head
and no clothes. Therefore I seek a shelter under a very big stone, my
yellow gray wolf were lying beside me. The stone start to pulsate
and get alive. I put myself in front of the stone and I see a big
chief with an enormous fallos. The chief is taking a finally form. He
is not a giant but he his a big man. He call me for the Sun of the
Daughter and he ask me to look into his eyes which is yellow.
Suddenly I flies over the earth and finally I'm on the top of the
roof in Tibet. I can see a valley situated between high mountains."
So, these are the last two dreams of this article...both
deal with an Indian Chief... who is Wakan Tanka of the
Amerindians....a guy who came at least 5 times... and here appeared
to the same person under the disguises of two of his different
Ghosts.
The tales of the Thunderhorse are preserved
in the legends of the Oglala Sioux of the Pineridge Reservation,
somewhere in the States. The Thunder-Horse belonged to Wakan Tanka,
apparently the Creator of All Things, which sometimes came to earth
during thunderstorms and killed the buffalo.(From a National
Geographic's article on the Badlands.) Surprisingly, Wakan Tanka is
known from both the Northern to the Southern tips of the Americas.
In the South, the tribal amerindian people still know him as Wakan
Tank.
Some recent dreams seem to indicate that the Thunderhorse came at
least 5 times.
For the Sioux of the plains, the same Spirit was known as
Thunderbird, and for them the sound of Thunder was the voice of the
Great Manitou, speaking from the clouds. (EM for Thunderbird)
Ok! so, this guy, is the God of Spiritual Fertility and he is
often represented by a giant phallus... in many civilisations, like
the Celts, the Sacandinavs, and many others for that spiritual
reason.
"I am Osiris, the Lord of the Heads that live,mighty of breast and
mighty of back, with a phallus that goeth to the remotest men and
women... I have become a Spirit, I have been judged, I have become a
divine being." (Egyptian Book of the Dead, Ch.69)
In finale, he has the yellow eyes of fire of the Ancient of
Days...as described in Daniel 7, and in Revelation 1,14 and
19,11.... and look, I am not saying this in trying to make anyone
blindly believe in my words, but to simply draw your attention
towards the existing possibility that what I say might be the Thruth
which you have all been waiting to hear.
All the Holy Scriptures say in total harmony that some
Celestial Messenger is supposed to come in this time of Great
Tribulations, and you will remain in doubt until you perform some
required investigations which are necessary in order to be able to
rightfully open your eyes to the reality of the Eternal Spiritual
World, in which we all aspire to resurrect, after the death of our
poor and ephemerous mortal "flesh" bodies, in the full glory of
wonderful "Luminous Speculum" Ghost Bodies, which are exactly alike
the Holy Ghost himself and on the same nature of the Holy Spirit!
"If men who have been warned by heavenly messengers have been
indifferent to them, as regards religions, they suffer long, being
born in a low condition."
"If virtuous men who have been warned by celestial messengers in this
World, they do not neglect them and investigate and profess the Holy
Doctrines. Seeing the danger of attachment, which is the cause of
birth and death, they have in this life extinguished the miseries of
existence by arriving
at a condition free from fear, happy and free from passions and
sins." (Anguttara Nikaya, Eka Duka and Tika Nipata (Galle,
Ceylon,1913, pp.160-5, translation by E.R.J.Gooneratne)
And in extremis, realize that in the World of Above... which is
the abode of all our Ghosts and Spirits... exists a powerful
hierarchy, dominated by the Creator, the Primordial Soul of the
Universe in its unique form as the Holy Spirit... the Winged-Horse of
Fire...and in all his other Holy Ghosts forms of all the
Servant-Riders who ascended on Him.....because He is your King, your
real true and only Good King, the Sun-God, the God of Knowledge, the
Highest of all Scientists, the Teacher... the Knowledge-Holder, the
only One who knows everything in regards to the hidden Mysteries of
the Metaphysical Reality....of His Kingdom!
"Thou shalt understand that it is a Science most profitable, and
passing all other sciences, for to learn to die. .... I shall give
thee the Mystery of this
Doctrine ; the which shall profit thee greatly to the beginning of
Ghostly Health, and to a stable fondament of all virtues." (Orologium
Sapientiae- from "The Book of the Craft of Dying" ... Comper's
Edition)
Thank Barbro and Victoria for most wonderful dreams and sweet dreams
to everyone,
Dr. Deus
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March-April 1998 - Special ASD Report
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(The Global Dreaming News will be sent
separately this month at a later date.)
This Month's Features:
ASD March Update
The latest news from the Association for the Study of Dreams
www.asdreams.org
March TOPICS:
-- Regional Meeting for Bay Area, March 29th
-- June Dream Conference in Hawaii - Schedule now up
-- Dream Discussions Online - ASD Bulletin Board
-- Graduate Dream Studies Project - Know of any?
-- Historical Studies in Dreaming - Call for papers
-- New online dream book shop
-- Misc: Dreams and Film, re-play of 1997 Dream Art Gallery,
Search Dream Journal Abstracts, More
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-- Regional Meeting for Bay Area, California March 29th
A Regional Meeting at the Coburns home on Sunday, March 29th from
10:00am to 4:00pm. It is a casual affair - bring sack lunch, some
time for dream groups, and features 2 speakers: Joan Robinson on Sand
Tray Dreamwork and Loyd Auerbach on Psychic Dreaming. Chuck will do
the Closing ceremony. We are encouraging networking (brochures only
- no "sale" items). Flyers will be out by week's end, and we hope
you will pass the word, attend and support ASD as well as promo for
the Hawaii conference. $25 entry contribution. If you have any
questions, contact Kelly Bulkeley or Shirley Colburn. If you don't
know either of these folks, send your questions to Richard Wilkerson
at asd@dreamgate.com
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-- June Dream Conference in Hawaii - Schedule now up
Getting the latest information on the Hawaii XV ASD International
Conference, 1998 is now EASY. Just stop by and select the conference
page to get the latest information, pictures and more. We are VERY
excited about this conference and now have the SCHEDULE of speakers
and workshops available online.
General Conference Information: http://www.asdreams.org/asd-15.htm
June Speaker and Workshops Schedule:
http://www.asdreams.org/asd-15schedule.htm
FIFTEENTH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR THE
STUDY OF DREAMS
Brigham Young University - Laie, Oahu, Hawaii June 22-28, 1998
For Further information: The Conference Information Hotline
Number In Hawaii Is:
(808) 262-7750
Call this number if you have particular question about Hawaii and
your trip. Our local volunteers there will be happy to listen to your
recorded message and get back to you by telephone or e-mail, to
answer questions and make suggestions about pre- and post-conference
vacation activities, weather, clothing, what to bring, etc.
Note: For registration, and for housing information, do not call the
hotline; instead call ASD's Central Office: (703) 242-0062. ASD
Central Office email ASDreams@aol.com
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-- Dream Discussions Online - ASD Bulletin Board
Though NO specific dreams are interpreted, we do talk about just
about everything else that has to do with dreams and dreaming. The
ASD discussion Web board is at
http://www.asdreams.org/enter_board.htm
... and is hosted by Ad Christiaensen who would love to hear from
you. What do you think about lucid dreaming? How did you like the
last book on dreams you read? How about posting your dream projects
and regional plans here? Maybe you could even help us out, as we
answer dozens of basic questions about dreams and dreaming from
younger students around the world and help with locating research
material and resources for more advanced students. Come join this
international cast of characters in the field of dreams and dreaming.
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-- Graduate Dream Studies Project - Know of any?
The Association for the Study of Dreams would like to provide
detailed Web site descriptions of any graduate programs that support
dream studies. To do this, we need your cooperation in supplying
information you might have about these programs. Don Kuiken,
Editor-in-Chief of the ASD Journal Dreaming has provided forms and
information on how to submit information and will be posting this
data as it comes in. Stop by the Graduate Dream Studies for more
information.
http://www.asdreams.org/gradstudies_idx.htm
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Dreaming Journal Special Issue Announcement
CALL FOR PAPERS: A SPECIAL ISSUE ON HISTORICAL STUDIES OF DREAMING
Dreaming is planning a special issue on historical studies of dreams
scheduled for publication in early 2000.
Contributions are invited for articles that:
(1) Examine the role of dreams in a particular historical setting or
cultural milieu;
(2) Analyze what a specific historical figure or text said about
dreams;
(3) Compare the place of dreams in different historical eras and, if
applicable, track developments from one era to another;
(4) Survey the changing view of dreams and dreaming through the
history of religion, philosophy, literature, and/or science;
(5) Examine the historical development of various clinical
applications of dreams, including historical literature reviews on
the role of dreams in differing diagnostic groups and the use of
dreams in specific therapeutic traditions.
Manuscripts will undergo full peer review and should be
submitted by 1 March 1999 to: Hendrika Vande Kemp, Ph.D, 180 N.
Oakland Avenue, Pasadena, CA 91101-1714, U.S.A.
or
Kelly Bulkeley, Ph.D., 226 Amherst Avenue, Kensington, CA 94708,
U.S.A.
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-- New online dream book shop
That's right, Dream Books, Conference Tapes, Videos, CD, DreamWheels,
all available and ready to be sent to you or a special someone for as
a gift. When you buy from the ASD bookshop you are supporting dream
education at the same time.
http://www.asdreams.org/Html_web_store/html_web_store.cgi
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-- Misc: ASD Web Site Features.
The ASD Web site, www.asdreams.org offers a multitude of dream
related resources, including abstracts from the Journal _Dreaming_
and bibliographic searches for the ASD newsletter and the Magazine
Dream Time. Also, many articles from these publications are
available. Conference schedules give a clue to the latest research
and innovations.
But the ASD Web site is more than a warehouse for research titles.
We have two extremely beautiful dream inspired art galleries, the
winners of the annual dream art show. We have discussions online at
every level, from high academia to grassroots. We have reviews of
dozens of films that involve dreaming. And as mentioned above, you
can even order books and other dream related products online.
Stop by and join the ASD international family and become involved
in the most exciting and expansive dream movement on earth.
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The Association for the Study of Dreams is a non-profit,
international, multidisciplinary organization dedicated to the pure
and applied investigation of dreams and dreaming. Its purposes are to
promote an awareness and appreciation of dreams in both professional
and public arenas; to encourage research into the nature, function,
and significance of dreaming; to advance the application of the study
of dreams; and to provide a forum for the eclectic and
interdisciplinary exchange of ideas and information.
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== D R E A M S S E C T I O N == ED V5 N3 ==
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D R E A M S SECTION INDEX BY BOB K. (For ED V5 N3)
Hi there! Welcome to ELECTRIC DREAMS - DREAMS SECTION for
Vol. 5 Number 3 - March 1998.
Hi there amigos! This month brings us another round of interesting
shared dreams, commentary and thoughts on dreams.
We start our with Editorials on Dream Incubation and Dream Software.
The Feedback from Dreamers features a comment on Expectational
Dreaming, a response to last months Editorial and futher extension of
thoughts on context and relationship in dreams, and a letter from DrD
in response to a message from your dreams section editor. A couple
recurring dreams related to public exposure and loss are shared. The
categories of Escape, Flying, Journeys and Relationships are the most
active this month. Dreambat and Stan K share some movielike dreams
and living contexts. A young (alleged) 7th grader shares an
Unbelievable dream experience. DrD shares his dream classification
scheme in his comments on Exotic Bird. A couple previous issue dreams
are also commented on. Some dream software observations from the
*Dream-Up* product are shared. We are treated to a series of dreams
from Sweden along with some self commentary which preserve some of
the original syntax as thoughts are translated between languages.
Enjoy your visit to the pages of Electric Dreams.
NEW CATEGORIES:
(None this month)
EDITORIAL:
DREAM INCUBATION
One of the areas that dreamers explore, and which non recallers would
love to master is the incubation of dreams. What? Well, what it is
is the process of requesting a dream in response to a particular
issue. When successful, the resulting dream or dream series offers
guidance or commentary on the incubated question.
It is a process similar to a prayer (requesting an outcome from a
higher power), but leaving to the process of dreams the package and
message that the response will show up as. Several dream books
outline methods for refining your skills in this area. Lucid dreams
often are the response to the intention to become concious in dreams
and offer a whole new dimension of reality to explore.
One problem is that we ask for an answer to a question that is too
broad. The more specific the question, the easier it is to relate
dream images to a suggested response or commentary. In my early adult
years, I remember wishing for a dream to show me the key to my
future. I was working in the hotel business at the time, and dealt
with room keys all the time. The resulting dream was a huge room full
of keys of all sizes, types, and shapes filling some shelves
throughout the room. All were freely available to me! I guess there
were many doors and locks I could open, and the dream just reaffirmed
that there were many directions I could go in, rather than zooming in
on any specific area. It's nice to know there are limitless horizons,
but it didn't offer me the guidance I was looking for, or at least
not in terms I could understand. So I tried again a few weeks later:
What is my path in life? This time I had a dream of driving off to
the horizon as the sun was rising in a Chevy El Camino (which means
road or path in Spanish). The El Camino was a combination sedan and
pick-up truck type of vehicle. Guess the message was that my path
would have to do with some transportation issue involving multiple
fuctions for a living!!
There are many techniques for learning how to ask smarter questions,
as well as how request and remember dreams. Check out the wealth of
dream resources listed (both offline and online) at the DreamGate
site (www.dreamgate.com) which also houses an Electric Dreams
archive. The specific page for online resources on the net is:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/resources/online97.htm
DREAM SOFTWARE
I have been experimenting with several dream software prducts, and
starting next month I will be sharing the results. There are various
approaches and each has areas it works better on. In this issue,
Nutcracker shares some dream symbol definitions from the DREAM-UP
product which can be obtained at:
http://www.dreamup.com/
Dream-Up from Dreamsoft Inc. allows the definitions to be modified,
amplified or changed into a truly personal dream dictionary. The
developers of this product have generously allowed ED to test out
their Version 1.0 and Version 2.0 software from which the cited
symbols are extracted. The cited symbols are just a small sample of
the vast library of definitions Dream-Up supplies with their
interactive program.
DrD asks the question within one of his commentaries: Should we let
computers analyze our dreams? The answer to that one is simple. They
can't. Computers still can't translate simple documents from one
language to another accurately (Check out the new AltaVista
translation service) because of the many nuances of languages and
multiple meanings for words. Coming from Puerto Rico and knowing
both Engish and Spanish well, I have followed several software
products for Spanish-English translation for years, and they simply
don't work effectively in either direction. Their level of competence
was initially just one step above sign language, and though they have
improved, the more complex a document the worst it gets. Hoping for
any high degree of accuracy in the field of dreams is several levels
of degree more difficult. Maybe sometime in the remote future when
the StarTrek universal voice translator comes into our reality,
accurate dream translation products may be close behind.
However, the computer programs can help us keep track of our dreams,
motivate us to capture them, and show us various ways of approaching
them. They generally have some journal keeping features, and
dictionary features. The best will allow you to enter your own
personal meanings along with some supplied definitions by the
software authors. One failure supplied definitions have is an
inability to forsee all the many contexts that a similar symbol can
change meanings with. Some products offer ability to chart
statistics, and help with possible interpretations. None substitiute
for a professional when professional help is needed or offer the
flexibility or wealth of meaning provided by a dreamgroup. They can
help people trying to learn more about themselves and the mystery of
dreams. Of course, you first have to remember your dreams, and write
them down. You can even experiment with taking waking life situations
and enter them as a dream to get some insight into how program
generated meanings can help you understand yourself better. If you
have a computer, why not give some of these products a try? Stay
tuned for more information.
THANKS
As usual thanks to all the dreamers and dream commentators for
sharing a little bit of their internal reality with a larger
community.
FEEDBACK FROM THE DREAMERS
== Commentary by Richard Catlett Wilkerson on Dream Theory -
Expectational Dreaming (980313)==
== Commentary Response to Caesar Editorial by Rob Lewis (980313)==
== Commentary Response to Editorial Response by Bob Krumhansl
(980313)==
== Commentary by DrD : Thank you Bob! (980312)==
COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES
== Commentary on DrD on Reply to Miss Deer Nutcracker! (980226)=
== Commentary by DrD on "Yard Sale and Naked" (980227) ==
== Commentary by DrD -Supplements to originals -on "Weird Dream" and
"Abducted by B." (980227)==
NEW DREAMS:
PRECOGNITIVE/FUTURE DREAMS [Stories from past experiences, or
send them in before it happens, if you can]
REPETITIVE DREAMS [Significant by nature]
** Dream: Coed Bathroom - reoccurring by BU (980322)**
== Commentary on Coed Bathroom by BobK (980322)==
** Dream: babysnatcher by ? (80320)**
== Commentary by Bob K on Babysnatcher by ? (980322) ==
DREAM TRACES IN WAKING LIFE [The effects of external stimuli on
our dreams or is it the other way around - our dreams leaving a
trace on our physical reality?]
DEFYING CLASSIFICATION [Your stumpers may not be so mysterious to
others]
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
LINKS TO STAGES OF LIFE
BIRTH [Starts]
CHILDHOOD [Early development]
ADOLESCENCE [Maturing, testing]
ADULTHOOD [The main event for most]
OLD AGE [Wisdom, Approaching the Journeys end]
DEATH [Endings]
COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD [Beyond our terrestrial limits]
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AGGRESSION [By us or against us- crossing others paths]
ALIENS [Visitors or visited - creatures from other dimensions]
AMUSEMENT PARK [A place to relax and enjoy, another reality]
ANGELS [Visitors from Spiritual dimensions]
ANIMALS [Basic Instincts]
[This month brings us: serpents, horses, fish, ]
== Commentary by DrD on Fisherman and Serpent (980303)==
== Commentary by DrD supplement on Fisherman & Serpent (980306)==
BATHROOMS [Maintenance, Cleansing and Elimination]
BELONGING [What we are associated with or wish we were]
BRIDGES [How we get across an obstacle or go from here to there]
CELEBRITIES [The well known - famous and infamous]
CLOTHING [What we wear tells us about ourselves and the events we
participate in]
COMEDY [With an accent on puns, funny situations or jokes]
COMMUNICATIONS [From telepathic to devices to signs & symbols]
COMPUTERS [Extensions of our minds, mind tools, communication]
CULTS [Somewhere out there ...]
DIRECTIONS [Ever stop and ask for directions? North, South,
East, West, up, down, ahead, behind, straight, turn, right, left,
make a circle, cross, go through, open, close, mix, add, boil,
cook, simmer, but most of all - follow these instructions
carefully...and don't be shy about asking someone else down the
path, except, of course, for the Big Bad Wolf!!!]
== Commentary by Heratheta on yard sale drm & barney drm (980225)==
DISCOVERY [New insights and unexpected developments]
DREAMING [Dreams about dreaming]
DRUGS [Healing or Hurting?]
EATING [Getting nourishment for maintenance, growth and pleasure]
ELEVATORS [Going UP or DOWN - Push the right button or else...]
ESCAPE [Get me outta here!!!]
** Dream: The exotic bird by M (980225)**
== Commentary Computer Interprets 'Exotic Bird '(980224)==
== Commentary by DrD on Exotic Bird and Xena's Miraculous
Transformation Air Show (980228)==
== Commentary by Heratheta on exotic bird drm (980301)==
** Dream: the saving jlizard by ? (980309)**
EYES [The organs of sight...the window to the soul...]
FEAR [What scares us]
FOOD [The source of our physical nourishment]
** Dream: "She'll be apples" by V (980313) **
== Commentary by Heratheta on apple orchard dream (980314) ==
FIRE [Flames bring light, heat and destruction/transformation]
FLYING [Confidence, Power, Freedom & Perspective]
** Dream: Practice Flying/Xena Princess Warrior Transforms Into a
Hawk (980221) **
== Commentary Computer Interprets 'Practice Flying' (980224)==
== Commentary by DrD on Xena's Flying (980312) ==
== Commentary by Heratheta on exotic bird drm (980301)==
GIFTS [Offerings to or from others]
HOBBIES [Our interests and desires]- COLLECTING THINGS
HOLIDAYS [Time off to ...]
HOSPITAL [A place for treatment, healing and repair]
HOUSE [Where our lives take place]
HOTELS [Temporary Dwelling or Special Event location]
JOURNEYS [Missions away from our home base -explorations]
** Dream: "Down the River" by dreambat (980313) **
== Commentary by MB on Down The River (980315)==
** Dream: Slumming by Dreambat (980316) **
** Dream: "Life Dream" by Dante (980320)**
== Comment by Richard on 'Life Dream' (980320) ==
LOST [Disorientation or abandonment]
LOTTERY DREAMS [Sudden Wealth - Randomness favors the
dreamer]
LOVE [All around us, yet so hard to find and keep]
LUCID DREAMING [Knowing you are Dreaming when you are Dreaming]
MEMORY [Remembering ...In dreams we often struggle with the issue
of memories and remembering a dream which by definition involves
the process of recollection.]
MIRRORS [Reflection of Self]
MUSIC [Melodies of the land within]
NUDITY [What you see is what you get]
** Dream: Unbelievable!! from a 7th Grader (980307) **
== Commentary by Heratheta on pretty disgusting drm (980310)==
== Commentary by Bob K on Unbelievable!! (980322)==
PERFORMERS [Entertainers]
PROBLEMS [Situations or difficulties sometimes present choices]
POLITICAL SCENE [Public issues through positions of power]
RELATIONSHIPS [Other parts of ourselves including family which
constitutes the first and earliest of our relationships, often
influencing how we relate to the outside world]
** Dream: Coming Home Domesticated by Stan K. (980307)**
** Dream: Of Loss and Longing by Stan K. (980308)**
== Commentary by Heratheta on jeep drm,flyng drm,couch drm,mall drm
(980312) ==
** Dream: this little piggy will by ? (980309) **
** Dream: The Party by molasses (980320)**
RELIGIOUS RELATED [The Ritual and the Spiritual]
ROMANCE [Thrills and Chills, lost in another]
SCHOOL THEMES [Learning and learning related trials]
SOLUTIONS [The answers to problems or quandaries]
STAIRS [Bridges between levels, between the upper and the lower]
TEETH [Ok, losing teeth is one of the top ten dreams people have
questions on. Theories on what they mean range all over the
spectrum of possibilities.]
TORNADOS [Pretty well defined destructive power of nature]
TRAPPED [Temporarily helpless- Sometimes we are paralyzed or
imprisoned by jobs, relationships or expectations]
VEHICLES [Means of transportation, reflection of lifestyle]
WATER [A magical earthly fluid, nourishment, cleansing]
WORKPLACE [Where we make a living]
WRITING & WRITERS [Communication and creativity]
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DREAM SERIES
(Dream's from Sweden - A personal collection by BN)
** Dream Series Dreams from Sweden by BN" (980305)**
** Dream 1: The Stone People **
** Dream 2. The Eternal Stone **
** Dream 3. The Organic Light Tunnel **
** Dream 4. Immaterial Creatures **
** Dream 5. A Fight **
** Dream 6. My Sister and Rain **
** Dream 7. The Estate Owner **
** Dream 8. The Lizard On My Elbow **
** Dream 9. The Barn and The Threat **
== Commentary by Heratheta on Sweden's drm & serpent drm (980307)==
= = = = = = = = = = = ==
FEEDBACK FROM THE DREAMERS
== Commentary by Richard Catlett Wilkerson on Dream Theory -
Expectational Dreaming (980313)==
Hi to all,
I was watching a special on the body and healing by - eeek, name
slips my mind, but there was a example the speaker gave that fits an
aspect of dreaming that fascinates me. I call it the "Expectation
Factor" and it has to do with the notion that the less lucid the
dream, the more the dream is about expectations and beliefs.
Her example was a how when you put a swarm of flies in a bottle and
put the lid on for some time, the flies get used to it. Take the lid
off and only a few bold flies even bother to leave. They have learned
to live within the boundaries of their expectations.
This is often seen very clearly in dreaming where we dream within
the boundaries of our expectations. True, there are unexpected
intrusions. We are not flies. This intrusion seem to me to be the
playful imaginal being at the center of the universe. Metaphorically
speaking. Everything is open to being played with in a dream, given
enough time.
Playing with Expectations
- Richard
== Commentary Response to Caesar Editorial by Rob Lewis (980313)==
At 06:57 PM 3/13/98 -0500, you wrote: Hi Bob: I'm having trouble
getting this off. Please acknowledge reception of. Thanks, Rob
To: bobkrum@erols.com >Subject: Response to Caesar's Dream
Hi Bob: I'm enclosing as an attachment in .txt format a brief to not
so brief response to your lead editorial. Rob
Subject: Re: Caesar's Dream:
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 19:12:09 -0500
From: Bob Krumhansl <bobkrum@erols.com>
To: Robert Lewis
"Rob - Enclosed is my editorial from the next ED using your question
as a springboard ..."
Greetings Bob: I want to first of all thank you for making Caesar's
Dream the subject of your lead editorial, and to thank you for doing
my homework: tracking the events that led up to the dream, the event
itself and historical postscript. I'm sure it will come as no
surprise that I simply didn't pick this dream out of a hat; that it
is somehow illustrative of a (arguably narrow) point of view towards
which I'm friendly.
In Sex, Symbols and Dreams, (recently reviewed in ED), Dr. Janice
Baylis only briefly discusses this dream on p. 37, citing (implicitly
agreeing with) the interpretation offered by R. deBecker that
"Caesar's biological mother represents his motherland, Italy, and his
mother-town, Rome . . . that a man as eminent as Caesar could have
been ENCOURAGED to undertake such a move by a nocturnal vision of
incest. But the augurs in those days interpreted incest as a good
sign of terrestrial conquest." You can well imagine how taken aback I
was by the interpretation, (with which I must respectfully disagree),
but even more so by the historical consequences of Caesar acting upon
the interpretation.
In your editorial, Bob, you eloquently elaborated on the multiplicity
of meanings generated by dreams, their effects on family, friends,
society etc., that dreams open up networks of interconnections
between ourselves, the past and future. As much as I would like buy
into this exalted vision of interpretation that underlies a civility
(a humanity) we are all striving to attain as individuals and
societies, I can't accept it because of what I perceive to be its
uncritical acceptance of any number of interpretations, all of which
are (implicitly) of some value. That relativism is creeping into
every aspect of our lives and is undermining distinctions between
good and evil, right and wrong is (for some) a disturbing development
that begs consideration). As Caesar proves, this arbitrariness of
interpretation gives license whose effects can ripple right through
history.
I noticed, Bob, that while offering several interpretative approaches
to this dream you didn't settle on anything definitive, which is
consistent with the approach that values the multiplicity of meanings
and their effects. As you are well aware, I am consciously swimming
against the current in this respect, and I feel this dream, in a
positive sense, divides the camps even further. I'm hoping that this
ever widening divide will generate excitement and healthy debate
among interested parties, whose feedback will encourage both sides to
re-examine their respective methods and pre-suppositions and
prejudices.
Before Caesar entered Rome, he didn't even want to fight a fair
fight: he wanted to catch the enemy unawares. And then he dreamt of
an incestuous encounter with his mother. The taboo against incest is
TRANS-CULTURAL. It violates every known social and natural law. In
his daytime (waking) contemplations, Caesar, in his obscene vanity
and lust for power, was trying to justify (to himself) hurling his
legions against Rome, a decision that would result in the slaughter
of 1000ds of innocent men, women and children. The dream was telling
him that to do this (to murder innocents to satisfy his vanity) would
be tantamount to sleeping incestuously with his mother. The dream
was categorically telling Caesar that to sack Rome was wrong, was
immoral.
Unlike yourself, Bob, I'm rather convinced that dreams have only one
meaning. I can't prove my interpretation is the right one, but if
you are right, and his dream holds a multiplicity of meanings, there
is no compelling reason for Caesar not to enter Rome: matters of
right and wrong are richly fudged and the dream is neither
categorically corrective nor singularly meaningful. On the other
hand, if I were his augur, history would read considerably different.
Because of the extraordinary importance of some dreams, (and what
their meanings are symbolically revealing), I'm arguing for a weeding
out of arbitrary, un-tested interpretation while you are arguing for
a richer, diverse inclusivity, a position enjoying current popularity
but wouldn't cut muster in Roma circa 16BC. At the very least, this
dream illustrates the importance of trying to divine the correct
meaning of a dream, especially if in ignoring its message and/or
misinterpreting it, blood is spilled.
From a purely practical point of view, we should all hope that dreams
resemble math questions in that there is only one right answer. And
if the result of this is to render dream interpretation as dull as
mathematics, that's a trade-off I can live with! Most Romans,
post-facto, would agree, n'est ce pas?
I'll thank you in advance, Bob, for your time and consideration.
Robert Lewis
== Commentary Response to Editorial Response by Bob Krumhansl
(980313)==
Rob -
I got your original message and also this message. I'm sending it to
the ed-core and will publish it in our next issue. Thanks for your
comments. By the way, I had not read the Baylis book or any reference
to this dream previously.
I wonder sometimes how many people really read the dreams section of
our issues, as I have not had any responses other than yours to the
last issue. However, that fact does not diminish my enthusiasm for
making an effort at expanding our discussion to a wider audience.
With Electric Dreams, the issues will live in this dimension far
longer than we will.
I have been following your vision and exchange with Richard and in
the dream wheels. It would be great if we could arrive at a
mathematical meaning of dreams, universal in application, even if it
only provided a fixed basic common thread, but I feel it would be
akin to finding a mathematical meaning to each and every human life.
I firmly believe that human life is not a quantifiable commodity by
any mathematics we have devised. It is only because of the
technological materialistic slant of this Western European laboratory
results oriented culture that such a folly is even considered. Some
people deny any meaning to life other than our physical moments in
time while others see this existence as a part of a larger panorama.
No one has settled this question for everyone yet. The answer to
this issue would have a great bearing on the significance and meaning
of life. As it stands now, we all reach our own answers and tailor
our lives in some measure to our general belief - religious or
philosophical. Regardless of which approach may ultimately prove
correct, we live our lives here according to certain guiding beliefs
that become real for each of us.
I am reminded of the saying that whether or not we believe the Sun
shines and sustains our existence on earth, whether or not we believe
that we are nourished by oxygen in order to breathe, the Sun shines
and oxygen is present in our existence and we live by their
constraints. You may ignore your dreams, but they are part of our
existence.
One theory of dreams is that the visual and perceived emotional
impact is totally meaningless, the fruit of random neuron firings. A
related theory is that our perceived meaning of the visual or sensory
images is meaningless except in our imaginations, but that on a
physiological level there are physical electrochemical effects to
dreams, and that is where their meaning lies - in their function of
balancing our physical selves. Having worked with dreams for a long
time I firmly disagree with the position that dreams are always
devoid of any meaning. I do think there is something to the theory of
a physiological or transpersonal effect that our dreams have, which
may be the primary meaning you are looking for in content only. This
"primary need fulfillment plus" theory allows for further meaning and
supports a multi functional purpose for dreams, just as our lives are
multi functional. We are members of the human race, citizens of
Planet Earth, sons, brothers, sisters, parents, husbands, wives,
companions, sharers of common interests or members of conflicting
groups, but still remain special and unique. We do not necessarily
cease to exist in one function at the expense of others, but share a
simultaneous existence where one relationship is emphasized over
others for spans of time.
I understand your concern with relativism and potential dangers it
becomes the breeding ground for, but I don't think allowing for
different meanings in the realm of the dream experience violates any
law of human existence. I have had dreams and experienced through
dream sharing individual dreams with multiple meanings for a single
person, such is the magical quality of dreams. One lesson I draw from
the life that surrounds us it is that a degree of unity is embedded
in apparent diversity.
Regarding your conclusions about the tragic consequences of Caesar's
Dream, I would like to reemphasize the point that in my opinion the
dream of and by itself did not create or inevitably lead to the
consequences that ensued, it was just one of many contributing
factors. We may change a job or enter or exit a relationship because
of the influence of a dream message, but we must live with the
consequences - good or bad to us or others. Blindly following a dream
message may have far more tragic consequences than blindly following
any leader or authority figure. On the other hand, David Koresh saw
the end of the world imminent and lived indeed to see a "premature"
(by traditional standards) end of his world. Our beliefs, which our
dreams are linked to, act as magnets to our realities in ways we do
not precisely understand.
Respectfully,
Bob K.
== Commentary by DrD : Thank you Bob! (980312)==
Dear Bob,
thank you for your detailed message. You will be glad
to know that "El Nino" is basically over. I mean by this that I have
interpreted enough dreams to give a taste of my salad.... and my
interpretations will soon stop. Actually, I am not planning to give
any for a while.
I had also mentioned to Richard, a little while back
that it would be a little lengthy at first... but that it would
resume to normal quite rapidly for many different reasons which would
be too long to explain.
Also, feel reassured about the intention of the
"Divine Dreams" site which I kind of consider as a Satellite to ED...
because it specializes into my salad only... and does not cover the
wider range of topics which ED does. I am telling you this because I
realize that other dream sites which were obviously born from
ED...
have not given any of you much credit for starting them up. I also
had this type of thing done to me a couple times also... and did not
like it too much.
By the way, it has a great time for me to interpret
them few dreams which appeared on the Core, because from their
content, I know that all them people are good people.... where in
other places, there are some dreams which I would rather not
interpret from what I see in them.... so bad, some people are!
However, there are still a few things which I will have
to clarify...for instance, I received an e-mail from Mary B.. who
believes that dreams come from our imagination... as per the
teachings of some persons. It is therefore clear that many don't
realize that imagination is a capacity of the Conscious mode of the
Soul...while dreams come from the Unconscious mode! Anyway, it is
evident that a dream like the "Revelation" one of Nutcracker... was
just beyond the faculty of imagination and strongly suggests that our
dreams are all inter-connected, besides being all issued from the
same origin.
Also, Bob, to reassure you, God does not belong to any
Church... even though his word as the "Author of All Things" is
behind all the Universal Holy Scriptures... and it is not his
intention to restore any of these materialistic institutions which
are causing so much schismatic chaos at the present time. Actually,
he will want everyone to walk out of them Churches... because the
real Temples are behind the eyes and between the ears of every single
living being!
OK! about computers, I am a real dummy.... and I do not
know anything about them... but, to tell you honestly I find this
Space Age Communication Tool, extremely promising... Actually, I had
a dream recently, in which I saw, a great number of computers getting
interconnected together in some kind of Windows 100 far out program!!
About the title Doctor D., the idea came from a Tibetan
scholarship title of Doctor of Divinity... or Doctor Universalis
which was bestowed on the very spiritual Tulkus, at a time when there
were knowledge-holders, in regards to Metaphysics, in Tibet... which
is obviously not the case anymore! So, don't worry about doing what
you think is best. As you say, the term is also used for Medicine
Doctors and for people it might be confusing... but, although I am a
little bit of that in regards to the secrets of the soul... I came up
with that, because I spent somewhere between 16 and 20,000 hours
researching and studying in this field which would be the equivalent
of 4 or 5 Doctorates in Universities.
About the repetitions....I will avoid that... and redirect
the people towards places where this is already exposed.
About Nutcracker, she is really having a ball now... and is
presently working on her own research and finding all kinds of things
on her own... possibly from a too wide approach....but, she will
learn how to screen her material...distinguishing the doubts from the
certainties. I felt that I dreamt a lots, but she has about 3 times
as much dreams per annum than I have myself... which I find to be
already a lots to handle!
About Cut-Backs....don't worry, I am extremely pleased by
everything that I have managed to escape with so far.
About the positive and negative reaction of people to
Reincarnation, Immortality of the Soul, and the constant
manifestations of the Primordial Soul in the flesh... I fully realize
that there will be a universal confrontation or major shock of
ideas....from where the Light will spring forth. In this respect, I
would strongly encourage everyone to stand by their own beliefs...
and gather in two opposite camps...and defend their respective point
of views. This is what is coming ahead anyway.
You see, a guy like Brien Holcombe could take the command
of those who disagree... and I could do the same with the people of
the other camp... and a debate could be initiated on another
platform. And the people that are neutral to the issue could be the
judges. We should may be think of something like this which could be
lots of fun. Actually, oral debates were the most popular social
activities in Tibet and the Ancient Greeks had similar events known
as the Pythic Games... the Spiritual Games, which were held every 4
years, just as the Physical Games Olympics, in which the Gods,
Oracles and the Spiritual Athletes would come and show their salad in
public... in large Stadiums... similar to the one described by
Nutcracker in "Revelation"!
This could be lots of fun!! And believe me, I am not shy at
all.... and it would force every Church to send in their best
Athletes.... because....listen to this prophecy...
"You will see every nation hobbling on their knees,
every nation being summoned to its book- today you shall be
recompensed for what you were doing! (Coran 45:28)
.... which is quite clear and means that everyone will be
fought on their own grounds. For example, the Christian Church will
fall because of the Bible!
If this would happen on TV... I alone against their best
Teachers... Cardinals, Bishops...etc...it would go up into a sudden
Joy and then into a sudden Sadness...as they would all walk out with
their heads between their legs. For not knowing what is the Holy
Spirit... and to have preached the contrary of the written words of
God as clearly written in their Holy Book! Ouch!
In short, it's a Modern World and even the Pope will have
to take his Pill! Actually, Bob, I have a funny sense of humour and
everybody will have a good time... because the whole game is a game
of liberation.
And finally, I am flattered to hear that you kind of like my
easy classification of dreams... and will look forward to further
correspondence with you on any topics of your interest.
Sincerely yours,
DrD
PS: I will send you lengthy material attached, once I learn how to do
it!
COMMENTARY ON DREAMS FROM PREVIOUS ISSUES
== Commentary on DrD on Reply to Miss Deer Nutcracker! (980226)==
Dear Miss Deer Nutcracker,
I must be going blind... to have not thought of
this 50/50 odd probability... as I am aware that I also came in the
feminine form, at a few occasions. And, to tell you honestly, I
scratched my head a good number of times...wondering what the colour
"pink" was doing in there... so striking when baby girls are always
dressed in pink... and the fact that pink is obviously the colour of
the female gender.
Now, I am really having a ball... The Lord of all
the Stags...is the Lordess of the same...or the Lordly Queen... or
Goddess of all the Stags! This wonderful, because many use the term
God and Goddess, like this and that, but the term correctly applies
to you, because you are a Genuine Real One and that is even better...
because it proves that we do rebirth in the flesh and doing that we
run chances of being born in either gender.
In any case, my Deer... you will have a great time
looking up them references... and you will be surprised to see how
famous you were in the past...especially in them Celtic
representations ... where you are represented sitting on your throne
with your beautiful Deer Antlers...and flanked on either side by the
Greco-Roman Hermes and Apollo (and at others by Teutatis)...who just
happened to be different manifestations of the same immortal
soul...as a guarantee of immortality.
Also, in other places you are represented with 3 human
heads...meaning that at that time you were known to have come 3
different times.
From what I have seen, in books, we have met at different
occasions in a few different civilizations... and I really appreciate
the fact that you are still around, one more time. As the Arab..
people say... it is a "Ruh Shawl Shodan"... a soul delighting
happening!
A very old soul indeed, you are...very close to the
age of my own old immortal thing!
This is purely fantastic... and it just shows that
no one should be scared to send their crazy dreams to crazy Dr.
D...as he may find in them things that indoctrinated modern
psychoanalysts could not see even with a telescope.
Anyway, about the Christian Church... I think that
they are a little out of tune... but a guy named Daniel in Daniel 7
sees some Holy Beasts and also Ezekiel in Ezekiel 1 sees some strange
creatures with funny faces.
Finally, thank you for your kind intervention on
the Core as it will surely demonstrate to Brien H. that some dreams
really need to be interpreted by someone else than the dreamer
himself. (By the way, dear Brien, why don't you spend a bit of time
reading good books... Holy Scriptures of any Faith... as you will
find I am sure lots of good material in them. You may think that I am
inflated... but my mind is not full of air like some others.)
And if we ever have the pleasure to meet in this
life... it will be a pleasure to invite you for a dance...
And before, I forget, very often we rebirth,
cyclically according to our Oriental Astrology...but since there are
no Deers... I am wondering if you would be born during the year of
the Goat... or Horse... or any other year?
Look, I have lots of info...on my own Spirit... and
may be this could be of interest to you... because it is by trying to
understand about this particular one that I found about all the
others.
Thank you once again for your warm
receptivity... and for posting your most wonderful dreams,
Talk to you soon,
DrD
......................................
She liked it...and replied with fun...(actually, we did exchange
a few words in private)...and she is a prodigious dreamer...and this
is some extracts of her reply...
In a message dated 98-02-22 14:47:11 EST, you write:
<< Dear Miss Deer Nutcracker,>>
That would be Goddess of the Stags to you, Gerald!
<lol> Oh, I am having fun with that title! <<And, to tell you
honestly, I scratched my head a good number of times...wondering
what the colour "pink" was doing in there... so striking when baby
girls are always dressed in pink... and the fact that pink is
obviously the colour of the female gender.>>
Until you just mentioned it, even I didn't pick up
on 'the pink is for girls' theory myself. How interesting.
<< Also, in other places you are represented with 3 human
heads...meaning that at that time you were known to have come 3
different times.>>
Alright, now this is downright frightening. I have
a zillion dreams with the number '3' in them. One dream alone had 3
angels, 3 snowmen and 3 snakes.
3 and 11 seem to be 'my' numbers. Usually, once a
day, sometimes twice, I can look at the clock and it'll read 11:11.
I'm one of those 11:11 people. And if I'm really lucky, I'll have
the VCR set and it'll be taping channel 11 so it will read: 11:11 on
11. It's a lot more common than I'd imagined. There's actually a
web site for people like me. << This is purely fantastic... and
it just shows that no one should be scared to send their crazy
dreams to crazy DrD...as he may find in them things that
indoctrinated modern psychoanalysts could not see even with a
telescope.>>
I think I have a few more God dreams somewhere. If
you'd like me to find them for you, let me know.
<< And if we ever have the pleasure to meet in this life... it
will be a pleasure to invite you for a dance... >>
Well, I don't dance, but for you I'd make an
exception. <<And before, I forget, very often we rebirth,
cyclically according to our Oriental Astrology...but since there are
no Deers... I am wondering if you would be born during the year of
the Goat... or Horse... or any other year?>>
I was born (this time around anyway) in l953. Does
that help? <<Thank you once again for your warm
receptivity... and for posting your most wonderful dreams,>>
Unlike some people, I'm open to other's opinions.
I've learned a lot about some of my dream symbols that way. Like
they say, knowledge is power.
Happy dreams!
NC
.........................................
She is born in the year of the "Snake"...and I am born on
"Remembrance Day"....
.... which is the 11th day of the 11th month!
DrD
== Commentary by DrD on "Yard Sale and Naked" (980227) ==
Dear Dreamers,
this is a very good dream and by far the hardest type
of dreams to interpret. As a purely symbolic "Instruction" dream, it
is always a challenge to even attempt to figure out the deep meaning.
The message of this dream appears quite clear... and is most
important, as it applies in its basic essence, to all of us. However,
properly interpreted this excellent dream will shed lots of light on
our most profound existentialist fundamental questions.
But, as usual let's begin by reviewing the amazing dream
itself...
On Monday, February 23, 1998 at 16:20:08, the following data was
submitted from
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Dream Title: What does yard sales have to do with being naked? Date
of Dream: 2/19/98 - 3 am?
I was asked by my boss to go to a yard sale and to meet her at the
ship. (I guess in my dream I knew what ship) I met her there and we
were on board this big cruise ship. Many people were there having
mini yard sales in each corner. The boat was full of them and there
was no space for anything else. I was walking up the stairs (those
grate kind) and went from one sale to the next. All of a sudden I
was near my old house where I grew up. I was down the street a bit
on someone's front lawn. My boss walked into my old house, then I
realized I was naked (I mean naked!). As I heard cars coming down
the street I ducked and tried to hide under a big piece of cardboard.
Then I woke up.
Comments by Dreamer I don't understand it. I really like my
boss. I like yard sales but it's winter here. And being naked???!!!
What does all this mean?
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments
..................................................
....and wow what a wonderful dream and what a powerful message!
Poksch!
OK! very simple...the message is..."Where did you place your
Pride?"
Let me try to illustrate...
The dream begins by an invitation from your Boss to go to a Yard
Sale on a Big Cruise Ship... and this is very interesting as this
part deals with the material aspect of our nature.
Every single one of us always enjoy spending money buying
material things to bring back home and decorate our little individual
worlds.... which is a normal part of our individualization
affirmation and process.
So, yourself, who have fun with these yard sales... are attracted
to go on this Titanic Cruise Ship... which could be the optimum of
human life...to have enough money to spend our life traveling the
World and the Seven Seas among the "Rich and Famous". However, there
is something wrong with this boat of Materialism... because, every
body on the boat, instead of socializing among each other, are all,
in their own respective little corners, playing the "dull"
materialistic game of exchanging everything for money.
It is a very well known fact that materialism leads to selfish
individualism, as per illustrated in your dream.
However, as you climb the stairs to a higher level of that
Ship...which indicates that you are going from lower materialism into
possibly higher spiritualism... you are in a flash... transported
next to your "Old Home"... but you discover that you are in your
"Adam and Eve" suit...( and I hope that you had a couple leaves to
hide them embarrassing parts... Good thing that the cardboard was
there! May be I should leave some of them around my place too... just
in case this would happen to me. Just Joking!).... and felt really
embarrassed by your nakedness.
Now, this is the part that puzzles you and here is what I derive
from it and this is very serious.... no kidding. And also, believe me
there is no need to try hiding, because.... "There are
above you Watchers." Noble Coran 82:10 ....and
they see and hear everything...of the past, present and future!
Regardless, your original "Old House" in this dream... represents
the spiritual place where you came from .... a place where all of us,
including your own Boss, will return, one day or another! You see, it
represents "Our Heavenly Dwelling"...of our large more civilized
family... where we are all treated as equal.
Now, not that I am lazy but, I would like to invite everyone to
take their good old Bible and read about "Our Heavenly Dwelling"
which is quite well described in 2 Corinthians 5... but, chapters
3,4 and 6 are also quite good to read... but, for those who are even
lazier then me... here are some of the best passages which relate to
this dream...(The old St-James version says "house" while newer ones
might say "tent")...
" For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were
dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands,
eternal in the heavens.
For this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with
our house which is from heaven;
If so be that being clothed, we shall not be found naked.
....but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of
life.
Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we
are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord.
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from
the body, and to be with the Lord.
Wherefore, we labour, that, whether present or absent (from
the body), we may be accepted of him."
OK! there is plenty more... which I invite every one to read,
simply because all of this is already written... and bear in mind
that "present in the body" simply means "Conscious" while "absent
from the body" means "Unconscious" referring to our "Out-of-body
Experiences" in the Dream Realm....which is the Kingdom of God... and
the reason why dreams are divine messages!
And then, once you read 2 Corinthians... I invite you all again
to take the time to read "Revelation 3"... written for those who have
an ear to hear...which will explain a few other things in regards to
the promised spiritual life....and in 3,17 you will come upon these
words...
"You say, "I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a
thing." But, you don't realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor,
blind and naked. So, I counsel you to by from me gold refined in the
fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can
cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you
can see. Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline..."
So, my dear dreamer, for your eternal benefit, I would suggest
that among the leisure time and money that you spend at buying them
little material things which you won't be able to carry with you on
the Other Side, when will come for you the time to go...that you
should perhaps consider of buying some clothes from me... like a Robe
of Honour...which shall be your pride on the glorious day of your own
return to our Heavenly Dwelling.
" I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but
you are dead. Wake Up! Strengthen what remains and is ready to die;
for I have not found your deeds perfect in the sight of God!"
Revelation 3, 1-2... and if you wish to see who stole your clothes
read 3, 3...
Anyway, dear dreamer, do not take this as personal, because it
the same for all of us who live in this stupid and schismatic
materialistic world which is the cause of all the pain in this World
of Illusion and Delusion.
Finally, it is not by going to Church and spending money there
in their own materialistic game that you will be able to by your own
individual salvation... because no one sells tickets to go to
Heaven...but by realizing that the refined gold, that you need to go
there, is pure spiritual knowledge which you can feed to your own
Temple which is located behind your eyes and between your ears!
That's all!
And if you wish to see some samples of that "Gold"... stay tuned
for the coming and most revealing dream interpretations...
DrD
PS: Do not worry about the name of that Ship... because it will soon
sink!
== Commentary by DrD -Supplements to originals -on "Weird Dream" and
"Abducted by B." (980227)==
About "Weird Dream"...
Well, I got informed by Miss Deer Nutcracker, that Jada
Pinkett, is an Actress....
Well, in this dream, the "Protagonist"... the Main Actor...was
definitely the Guy wearing the Cape and the Mask... as Jada did not
act nor re-act very much indeed.
This guy, for your info, is known in many faiths... not only
in Tuetonism, but also in Tibet where he is known as the "Lord of the
Black Cloak"...in short according to them he is the Ghost of a
Deified Hero of the Past... and that he may appear in his Wrathful or
Peaceful form depending upon what the people deserve...and what
should be good for them.
Actually, have you ever heard of the Wrath of the Lord... and
of the Peace of the Lord. Well, he appears in the wrathful form when
he is displeased with what the people believe in... and oppositely
when he is pleased in this regard.
To his eyes, he does not value more or less Jada Pinkett than
you and treats you both equally.... and he only tries very hard, in
his act, to demonstrate that your own Ghost bodies...are immortal
just like his own.
Actually, they say that he is the guy that gives the "Good
Death"!
So, he is there stabbing Jada first... and she don't even
die... because she remains standing...and you have noticed that while
he was stabbing you... you could feel that knife coming in and out of
your ghost body... but, there was no pain...and don't worry you will
dream again which is the proof that you cannot die in the Spiritual
World...unless "He" would decide otherwise.
And as you've noticed all the others who were present did not
make a move ...because all the people in there are his subjects...
and they all know that it is only part of your teaching.
In short, again this Glorious Actor, is one of the numerous
Deified Ghosts of the Great Being who is animated by the single
Primordial Soul of the Universe...namely God Himself!
What a Divine Actor, won't you agree?
................................................
Abducted by Barney....
my interpretation was a little short again...
Actually, this dream should have been correctly
entitled..."Abducted along with Barney"...or "Abducted by the
Light"....or "Abducted by the Star Ship"
....because both you and Barney (who liked darkness) were both
beamed up into the Star Ship...and neither one you had any control on
this "encounter of the third type" happening.=20
Actually, this "Beam of Light" has been known to exist for a
long time... for instance... in regards to the Resurrection of
Mohammed... it is written that when Mohammed, (...who flew a magical
Winged-Horse...in a dream in the year 621 of this era...), will come
again... that Allah will revive the Winged-Horse and that this Flying
Horse, along with 4 or 5 Archangels, will be charged of finding him
on Earth which will be like a Waste-Land and they will not know where
he will be.
So, they say that the Light of the Resurrected Mohammed,
peace be upon him, will appear like a shaft from his grave to the
Clouds of the Sky!"
Then Israel, you know as in... "He is the Chariot of Israel
and the Horsemen thereof..." will call out...
"O Pleasing Soul! Stand up for rendering the Decree and the
Reckoning and the Presentation before the Merciful!"
So, the grave will spit open...and Gabriel will give him a
Robe of Honour...(Spiritual Ghost Body) .... and give him "Burak" the
Winged-Horse (Burak in Arab. means "Thunder and Lightening")...and
will say...
"This is the Day of Rising, the Day of Resurrection, the Day of
Encounter, ,the Day of Burak, the Day of the Winged-Horse"!!!
And so, Burak, the Winged-Horse, who has 2 wings and flies
between heaven and earth at speed of lightning will be very agitated
and will say...
"No one rides me except the Prophet and Possessor of the
Coran!"
... to the new Incarnation of Mohammed who will reply...
"Now my heart is pleased and I am happy."
And the story says that he will be given a crown and will
ride Burak and will go to Heaven... and that a cry will be heard...
" Raise your head, Rider of the Winged-Horse, as it is the Day
of Reckoning and of Recompense. Raise your head and ask, and it will
be given!"
"Your Lord shall give you, and you will be satisfied." (Coran
93,5)
........................................
So, you see, this beam of light as been efficiently working for
quite a while... now back to story of the Space Ship...which others
also board, in dreams, at times...for different reasons....you know,
like going to Heaven or down to Earth...and other places in the wide
Universe too, like the Moon...for example...as stated in the
following dream....
Subject: More action with my oriental friend!! Date: Wed, 11 Feb
1998 21:12:25:
Hi,
I'm in a real "dream peak" again! And now I've been in another action
dream with my friend, the oriental woman.
This time it's pure science fiction. The woman and me were on the
moon, and apparently we were making things grow on the moon, trees
flowers and the lot, we were watering and taking care of these
growing things. There was another member in our group as well but as
we were all wearing some form of white spacesuits with big, black
helmets, I could not see who that person was. We were all working for
some company, that had the mission to colonize the moon for the
benefit of the entire human society.
I was obviously some "moon police" protecting and guarding the moon
from other companies agents trying to send in their colonists to the
moon. Me and my oriental friend went on a patrol around the moon then
to secure that there were no other colonists trying to settle down.
We had a good police car to drive around in, and obviously we had
been doing great work with making things grow on the moon, because
there were trees and flowers everywhere (!). Then we spotted two
cars, like ours, roaming around in the landscape. So we pulled our
guns, stepped out of our car and stopped the vehicles to arrest the
occupants.
The drivers in the first vehicle, were obviously tourists. Mostly
older people, who were scared to see us with our guns pulled. They
immediately surrendered to us. In the second car were a bunch of
young boys, obviously only out on a joyride on the moon (!!). We
stopped them as well and I, in my anger, called the driver a few
names and was very angry with him indeed. Then that boys father
appeared -- who was in fact my employer. Yikes. The situation got out
of hand, all the trespassers started to yell, scream and complain
about our procedures. We tried calming them down, but to no use.
Therefore I was kicked from my work as moonpolice and sent back to
Earth, my lady friend was always following me and as I was swearing
over being sent to Earth again, she was telling me her support.
Obviously we both had rather stayed on the moon.
----
....and they were indeed sent back down to Earth because, I had
this dream lately...
" As the dream began....everything was brownish grey in front of
me...and there was a dark square with roundish corners, with
something like a small silver "Steering" in the middle of it, in
front of my eyes... which appeared to be the hatch way opening of a
submarine or something. After a while, I realized that it was the
reflection, in the calm and muddy waters, of something very big
floating in the air above water....suspended at not more than may be
20 feet above the water!
Then, it was apparently, time for me to go....and I asked if
they were sure that my landing was to be on target at the proper
place, because I was realizing, by the reflection in the water, that
this thing was moving at a certain constant speed and was reassured
that it would be just perfect in this respect and furthermore, that
this was the usual landing spot for everyone ....and I was dropped
from the Ship and landed in the water on my back, in the normal
"Frogmen Style Entry"....and very surprisingly because I expected to
sink a few feet and then come back up...I was so light that I did not
sink in the water at all...as if I had fell on a water bed.
And then, in the shade of the Ship, I rolled over and got
up....and could see my reflection in the muddy water...and saw that I
had a really nice space suit, exactly described by Goran, in which I
felt very comfortable and at ease... and began walking around on top
of the water... as if it was almost paved!
Then, Sunlight came in the picture as the Starship carried its
way...unfortunately, I never looked back up to look at the Ship...
being too preoccupied with all these new surprising things and
happenings.
And then, I guess that my landing had stirred the waters under
because something detached itself from the shallow bottom... of this
opaque muddy sea...and came up to the surface...and it appeared to be
an helmet exactly like the one I was, myself, wearing... and picked
it up by the neck ring which still had a bit of material showing that
it had been severed from the rest of the suit, suggesting that the
guy, who had worn this helmet, had lost its head.
Then I looked, through the dirty "Factory Smoked"..."Sun Rays
Screening Glass", (because it had stayed in water for quite a while)
inside the helmet to see, in full Sunlight, a wizened human head...of
a man with his eyes closed tight and the tongue sticking out...which
reminded me of the little wizened head mounted at the end of a stick
which the Joker holds in his hand in the Game Card.
I was stunned! Because, realizing that we are made of flesh, I
would have expected this head in the water to have been soaked and
inflated beyond proportions...but surprisingly, it had been dry all
the time, underneath water for an unknown number of years!!!
And then, as I questioned myself about the possible identity of
this Man of the Past...I turned around to see another guy dressed
identically like me coming my way... and looking around to the sides
of him while approaching, as if he was looking for something.
And as he came closer, I saw his face, the face of a pleasant
looking young man and instantly noticed that the wizened head was
very identical to his!!!
So, raising the helmet in the air.... I said:
"I think that I have found your old head"
.... and handed it to him .... and quickly looking inside as to
verify... he immediately recognized it as being such...and said:
" Yah! I'm really glad that you found it!" ... and extended his
right arm for a solid handshake and added.... "We are back!"
...................................................
....which clearly indicates that I was the third person on the
Moon... and that we were to be dropped together all at sea!
So, Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, let me introduce my very good
Celestial Friend...and "Policeman from the Moon"...who just like me
is able to walk on the top of the Muddy Waters of the Sea of Death...
( " Thou didst walk through the Sea with thine Horses...
churning the mud of the Great Waters..." Habbakuk 3,15 )
....and please welcome, Dr. F , Sir Goran Frilund, my
Historian friend from Nykarleby, Finland... who will be most happy to
share some of his most wonderful "Transfiguration" dreams with us...
...so, keep your eyes open and Stay Tuned!
Sincerely, your Space Captain,
DrD
NEW DREAMS:
PRECOGNITIVE/FUTURE DREAMS [Stories from past experiences, or
send them in before it happens, if you can]
REPETITIVE DREAMS [Significant by nature]
** Dream: Coed Bathroom - reoccurring by BU (980322)**
What does it mean when I have reoccurring dreams (for a couple of
years) about a coed bathroom in a public place (usually a mall) and I
am always on the commode and there are always a lot of people around
(men and women)? (Funny, huh?)
== Commentary on Coed Bathroom by BobK (980322)==
The dream of being naked in public is a common one usually related to
feeling exposed or vulnerable. Young people are constantly facing
vulnerability issues specially with with friends and starngers. Being
exposed to the opposite sex potentialy raises issues of sexuality and
attraction/repulsion and some awareness life around us. More specific
information from the dreamer would be needed to understand this dream
better. If we are to interact in a social environment, we all face
the issue of finding the right balance of privacy and sharing, and
determining who we can trust with our views and experiences.
Bathroom/toilet/commode dreams are related to the function of waste
disposal as is the experience in waking life. In my dream, I'm trying
to get rid of something but I'm being distracted. What am I trying
to get rid of? An object, an idea, a relationship? Elimination is
usually a private activity necessary for our maintenance and
survival. Kids make a big joke about this necessary function, but we
all participate in the activity. A common expression in Engish for a
messy situation or when things go wrong is "Oh Shit!". The french
also have a similar counterpart. We also "piss away resources" or get
"pissed off" at things not working out right.
When I visited Japan during one summer of my college years, I
discovered that in other Japan both men and women share the same
public rest rooms in many areas. Our western cultural standards do
not apply everywhere. As my Grandfather was fond of saying, "When you
got to go, you got to go!" and if you have to get rid of garbage in
public ...think about what you are doing!
** Dream: babysnatcher by ? (980320)**
Dream Title: babysnatcher
Date of Dream: 3/20/98
I am a young child out playing in the yard in front of my house on
the lawn. A man with red hair is trying to take me away. I am
screaming for my mom who I can see in the window inside. She is
vacuuming and doesn't hear or see me. The man takes me away. That's
it. It has been a recurring dream since I was little and I still have
it. Any Ideas?
Comments by Dreamer
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== Commentary by Bob K on Babysnatcher by ? (980322) ==
Young children often have entrapment type fearful dreams where they
are at the mercy of powerful forces which often take the form of
monsters. In this dream a distracted working mother (cleaning with a
vacuum cleaner which makes lots of noise) can not come to the rescue
of the young child who is taken away. The taker is a red haired man.
It is curious that such a dream would be recurring over the years. If
it were my dream, the reoccurence would highlight a sense of loss
from my childhood. Perhaps I lost my mothers attention to that of a
red haired man. I might not have been taken away to live with a red
haired starnger but the effect was the same. Perhaps a younger
brother or sister enterd the life of my family and I no longer had
the attention from Mother that I had before. The loss of contact with
mother need not have been physical, but might have been emotional or
mental. I would ask myself about my relationship with my mother and
if possible try to enhance it in the time that remains in our lives.
Patricia Garfield has recently published a book on dreams with the
dead which addresses contact or peacemaking with those that have left
our earthly planet.
DREAM TRACES IN WAKING LIFE [The effects of external stimuli on
our dreams or is it the other way around - our dreams leaving a
trace on our physical reality?]
DEFYING CLASSIFICATION [Your stumpers may not be so mysterious to
others]
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LINKS TO STAGES OF LIFE
BIRTH [Starts]
CHILDHOOD [Early development]
ADOLESCENCE [Maturing, testing]
ADULTHOOD [The main event for most]
OLD AGE [Wisdom, Approaching the Journeys end]
DEATH [Endings]
COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEAD [Beyond our terrestrial limits]
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AGGRESSION [By us or against us- crossing others paths]
ALIENS [Visitors or visited - creatures from other dimensions]
AMUSEMENT PARK [A place to relax and enjoy, another reality]
ANGELS [Visitors from Spiritual dimensions]
ANIMALS [Basic Instincts]
[This month brings us: Fish, Serpents and Horses]
== Commentary by DrD on Fisherman and Serpent (980303)==
Dear Bob,
I came upon a dream which should be really worth
interpreting and I will forward this interpretation to you when I am
done... here is the puzzling dream....
** Dream: Fisherman and serpent by Posted by Ryan (980222)**
I dreamed of an old fisherman on the beach during a hurricane or big
storm. I was floating above him and asked him what he was doing in
the storm. he said he could catch it, it would be out. I had no idea
what he was referring to. He had a large rod and reel like that used
for deep sea fishing. He took a fist sized piece of bait and put it
on a hook and cast it about 60 feet out into the roaring surf as he
stood on the beach. After a short while he yelled "I got it!" and he
pulled the rod hard. A long eel like creature with a dragon like head
with two floppy horns was pulled out of the sea and beached onto the
sand. The beast was about 25 feet long, no fins, like an eel. But it
had a ferocious head and was thrashing about. The old man was dancing
in the storm. I asked him, "What is it?" He responded, " I've caught
the GRASSEL!!" I have no idea what this name means. He then cut the
large eel serpent about two feet behind the head and peeled the skin
forward to reveal the skull.
.... and this is a most wonderful dream as it exposes the common
ancestry of the Celts, Teutons and Greco-Romans... besides giving a
key to the understanding of the natural tectonic forces of nature...
and a time factor.
In short, this dream is equal in "Revelation" value... to the
one of Nutcracker!
DrD
=Commentary by DrD supplement on Fisherman and The Serpent/ The
Horned Serpent! (980306)=
Dear Fellow Dreamers,
I thought that I was over for a while, but we fell
short of a finale to the first series of interpretations...and here
it is...
... now this dream, is a very important dream... as it
is another "Revelation"!! It is the Slaying of the Dragon of the
Sea...which is another universal psychic revelation... something very
special.... good for everyone.
The Story here begins where Ryan is flying in his spiritual
form above an old Old Deified Hero, from the past... and speaks to
him in "English"! And this means that this Fisherman spoke English
when he was on Earth, because he brought, back to Heaven, when he
died, only what he knew....amongst which his mother tongue.
And this guy, is a special guy... to go by the Sea, during a
Storm, and he likes it like that...because he is the Irish Mannannan
Mac Llyr....also known in Wales as Manawyddan ab Llyr, whose family
name "Llyr"... meant "Ocean" and was renowned to be a God of Storms
and Waves. I tell you this because they say that, while this God is
on Earth, he has a Magic Charger who flies through space.
Oh! People think that this is only legend but this guy,
according to Geoffroy of Monmouth, existed in the past, and that he
was the King of Great-Britain... a long time ago... and was
immortalized as King Lear by Shakespeare!
Now, he has a Twin Brother, which appears to be his spiritual
self and is named Bran who is an enormous giant, whose body is so
huge that it cannot be contained in any Castle nor Ship...but often
uses it to make a bridge over large rivers to pass armies of people
on. Bran is also represented as an intrepid traveler who sails to
Occident and to the Other World of Above. He possesses a Cauldron in
which he resurrects the Deads! King of the Sidh, which includes the
infernal regions, he must fight there against the Dragon in order the
defend magical treasures!
His, brother, Manawyddan, in Wales, who became the King, was
only a poor farmer and skilled shoe-maker! So, you see what I mean.
He was made of two parts ... a Giant Spiritual One combined to a
Minuscule Human one.
In Ireland, however, Mannannan mac Llyr, had the powers of
the Twins combined together, and is a powerful magician. He wears a
flaming helmet, wears a invulnerable armour, his sword kills of the
first shot and he has a magical Cape which renders him invisible
besides again having the Magic Horse which goes through space. On the
Sea, he has a little boat... with no sails, no rutter, nor rows...
which transports him magically exactly where he wishes. Just like the
Khonshu of the Egyptians, he is the "Navigator of the Mysterious
Regions".
He eventually became the Patron of Irish Fishermen as
Barfind and in Wales as Barrin... and the Christian Church made of
him Saint-Barry and he is especially worshipped by the fishermen of
the Isle of Man which was named after him... and where his gigantic
tomb can still be seen at the Castle of Peel! Even on the New
Continent, in New-Brunswick, Canada, the Grand Manan Island also
wears his name!
In any case, he is considered to be a God of the Powerful
Forces of the Sea....of Waves and of Storms.
And, here he is, King Lear, again one more time fishing the
Dragon of the Sea, the "Grassel", the "Garrus El"... because in the
Celtic Cult of the Waters, High Places were known as "Garrus Deus"
and Mountains and Peaks were named after them...like the Peak of Ger,
in France, foe example.
But, I don't want to place the Dragon as a bad personage
because it is a very powerful Spirit known "Chaos" and plays its
cyclical act against "Cosmos" as usual...
As stated, in the Encyclopedia of Mythology, in the french
version p.204, (by the way, all that I am saying emanates from this
above mentioned book)....
"Among the numerous Zoomorphic Gods, we can isolate the Snakes
with the Ram Head which on numerous monuments. These are associated
to many gods who hold them by the neck or on their knees. This
friendly attitude suggest that these serpents should not be
considered enemies in the fights of the gods against the forces of
darkness. These Animals seem to be their allies rather than
adversaries. Therefore, we have to see in them, Chtonian Divinities.
It is the same in regards to "The Horned Serpent" which figures at
many instances next to the Gallic Mercury!
A long eel like creature with a dragon like head with two floppy
horns was pulled out of the sea....(Ryan's words)
Very surprisingly, the same identical "Horned Serpent" can be
seen on many of the European Gods, namely Mercury/Hermes, Lugh of the
Long Arm, Thor, Odin, Cu Chulain, King Arthur, Perseus, Hercules,
Apollo, Teutatis, Taranis, Ogmios, and of course
Poseidon/Neptune...and etc,... who surprisingly all flew on the magic
Winged-Horse! This has remained a big puzzle for the modern
historians who could not figure out that it was always the same guy
revisiting all the time. In their mortal perspective they only saw,
the assimilation of them Gods with others ...but their theory did not
really hold too well... because them Gods had obviously existed at
different time periods. But, the "Horned Serpent" was also placed
with other Gods ... such as Cernunnos for example... and we shall
soon know the reason why.
Anyway, these Horns are the Horns of Divinity... stating that the
Grassel is a very High Universal Spirit. Actually, if one makes a
little bit of research on Dragons, he will discover amazing things.
They are present in different forms in basically all Mythologies from
China to Iceland...and thrive in medieval Christian legends. Always,
the Dragon inspires terror and valorizes the Hero who succeeds,
usually after a long combat, in stopping its rampages.
Although it is more often then others associated with Evil... the
Dragon, in India, is the Primordial Principle of Life and is
identified with the Primordial Gods Agni(Fire) and Prajpati
(Creator). Generally, in Orient, he is the Celestial Mount of
Immortals and secretes the First Waters from where will spring the
whole creation. Representing fantastic Powers, the Dragon has been
the symbol of the Power of the Emperors from China to the Celtic
Countries!
The reason for all this is very simple to explain, because the
Dragon is essentially the Guardian of Fabulous Treasures.... he
guards the Golden Fleece, which will be robbed from him by Jason; and
he also watches over the Garden of the Hesperides where are growing
the famous "Gold Apples", guarantees of eternity (Hesiod, Theogony,
333sqq.) In definitive, the Dragon is the Guardian of the Fabulous
Treasure of Immortality!!!
But, coming back to our story, please take the time to compare
the Story of Thor against the Serpent of Midgard...and the miraculous
fishing of King Lear... ...here present....
"I dreamed of an old fisherman on the beach during a hurricane or big
storm. I was floating above him and asked him what he was doing in
the storm. He said he could catch it, it would be out. I had no idea
what he was referring to. He had a large rod and reel like that used
for deep sea fishing. He took a fist sized piece of bait and put it
on a hook and cast it about 60 feet out into the roaring surf as he
stood on the beach."
*** in this story we can see that the guy by experience knows
what he wants and where to get it... and he, equipped for the
purpose, is confidently assured that he will.***
In Thor's Story, it is basically the same thing...he also seems to
know where he is going...
" He had just woken up and wanted to accompany Hymir... the
Giant, who like Bran was most likely his own Glorified Ghost
Form...and asked him to go fishing with him, in order to catch the
Serpent of Midgard... something which he wanted to do since early
childhood."
(I think that Hymir was Him, as a Ghost from one of his own previous
lives, in the Land of Giants (...the Dream Realm) and Midgard meant
Mid Guard...or the Security Check into the Sidh!")
" Hymir thought that he was a little small and slightly weak for
the task...but when came the time to look for a decent bait for the
Sea Monster, Thor, went out and killed one of Hymir's large Bull and
dropped its head in the boat, which was going to serve as a
bait...and Hymir was now impressed and began to believe that Thor was
the Man for the Task. And Thor rowed the boat towards the desired
spot while Hymir was telling him to stop rowing... but Thor kept on
going, as if he didn't hear... until he felt that he was at the right
spot.
Then, he put the bait on the hook and flung it over
board....and the Serpent... jumped on it...and as soon it felt the
sting of the hook... it began pulling with powerful strength on the
line so much that Thor's fists went right through the side of the
boat... and then he braced himself ...but the Serpent pulled so hard
that Thor went through the boat and found himself standing on the
bottom of the Sea. Now, having found some solid ground, he began
dragging the Monster out of the Sea!! As the old Irish Story Teller
says, no one can imagine the terrifying spectacle of Thor looking at
the Serpent in the eyes when this one was also looking back at him
while spitting its venom. He was just about to strike the Serpent on
the Head, with its hammer and as he was bending to grab his hammer to
do so... the now completely terrified Hymir cut the line and the
Serpent escaped back into the bottom of the Sea.
Thor was mad, because he knew that it would be a long time
before he will meet the Serpent of Midgard again... because as their
prophecies say... it will be only at the last battle of the Gods...
against their enemies, that Thor will be able to finally dispose of
the Serpent.
I will not tell, at this moment, the whole battle, but in
short, it will take place on the Field of Vigrid which is a 1000
leages in both width and length and sits just before Valhalla
(Paradise)...and on that Day, three Viking Boats will appear...
....the first one, the "Ship of the Deads" filled with Ghosts,
piloted by the Giant Hrym, is supported by the Giant Wave created by
the Midgard Serpent as he swims underneath it.
....the second one, the "Ship from Hell", transporting the
inhabitants of Hell, is piloted by Loki accompanied with the Wolf
Fenrir whose eyes and nosrils emanate fire and his large open mouth
drewling with blood touching both the Sky and the earth. And these
two Ships will fight together against the other boat.
... the third one, the "Ship of Heaven", piloted by Surt, whose
powerful Sword, raised in the air, sends flashings of lightning to
Heaven, Him, the New God who will preside to the destruction of the
Old World and the reconstruction of the New World, having on board
the Giants of Fire which are all the Great Gods of the Past! And when
this last Ship advances, it is as if it was advancing on solid
rock... and rocks crumble and fall and humans fall on the ground
lifeless. Because of the shaking caused by this Ship...the vault of
Heavens spilts in two and the people that are present can now see the
Sons of Fire passing on their "Flying Horses" on the bridge made by
the Rainbow which goes from the Earth to the Home of the Gods!!!
It is then, that Thor, sees for the first time, since a long
time, the Serpent of Midgard... which has been hiding in the Sea
eversince...and this time he manages to pull him out... and breaks
his Skull!!!
The fight is terrible and destroys the whole World....the
Earth as well as the Heavens.... but, then a New World begins to
flourish...a New Sun, son of the previous One begins to shine...and
we see a new Generation of Gods rising, as the Old Gods all
resurrect...actually they do not really come back themselves but they
have new Sons or Daughters...who studying the runes...the secret
language of Dreams, can now announce to the new human race, the
happiness which awaits them. Deceased men also reappear having
escaped the destruction of the world, by having found refuge in the
Tree-of-Life....and ancestors of the past of the men of today have in
this phenomena escaped from Death!
Now, back to our miraculous fishing, King Lear, having fougth
the Grassel, just like Thor, cuts the "Horned Serpent" behind the
Head and "Peels" the skin of its head to reveal the Skull...
The beast was about 25 feet long, no fins, like an eel. But it had a
ferocious head and was thrashing about. The old man was dancing in
the storm. I asked him, "What is it?" He responded, " I've caught the
GRASSEL!!" I have no idea what this name means. He then cut the large
eel serpent about two feet behind the head and peeled the skin
forward to reveal the skull.
Remember the Castle of Peel...well this is the origin of the
name... and even if the body of King Lear is buried there, the head
of this King was exhumed by King Arthur and transported to the Tower
Hill of London. Apparently, the legend says that it took some 87
years... to transport it there... but, this is slightly exagerated as
it took only, 87 days, which was the lenght of the New Year Festival
which went from Christmas to the Spring Solstice....as a sign of
commemoration of the death of the Old Year and the rebirth of the New
Year!
Also, the symbolism of the Skull of the Dragon is evident in the
sense that it represents the seat of Knowledge of the Spirit... as
illustrated elsewhere, like in Greek Mythology with
Hercules/Herakles' Slaying the "Hydra of Lerne"... the "Aquarian
Monster of Learning"!
The same is also repeated in the story of Perseus, which
basically begins by the initial Slaying of the Gorgon...which
represents the understanding of the concept of the Trinity...because
there are 3 Gorgons, namely Steno, Euryale and Medusa...and only
Medusa is mortal...while the other two are spiritual and immortal!
But, there is also one part of Medusa which is also immortal, because
the terrifying look of her eyes keep on petrifying humans at her
sight. Actually, the fact that she ends up as the Egid of the Shield
of Athena/Minerva (Capta)... shows that the Medusa was an integral
part of Athena...in the dark regions of the World!
Also, after slaying the Gorgon, which released the Winged-Horse
Pegasus, the story tells that our Hero Perseus went to fight a most
dangerous "Sea Monster" sent by Poseidon...because Perseus had killed
one of his Nymphes. In reality, Poseidon was known to be "Medusa's
Lover"...and as the "Ruler of the Ocean"...he was himself the "Sea
Monster"! This may appear hard to understand, but the "Slaying of the
Dragon" is nothing else than a confirmation of the "Divine Kingship
Spiritual Succession"!
In other words, the Winged-Horse and the Dragon...are two
different Spirits of the Lord of all Spirits...and this is the reason
why the Winged-Horse is known in China as the Horse-Dragon... or why
the "Gryphon", the mystical animal combining the dual aspect of the
Winged-Horse and the Sea Monster... has been substituted to the
Winged-Horse as the emblem of Apollo, the Greek God of Knowledge...
and also why you may read in "Revelation" 9,7 to 9,18...that the
Horses with Wings...have their power in their mouths... and also
their tails of Scorpio which are like "Snakes", having heads which
inflict injuries!
Anyway, back to our story, by killing the "Monster of the Ocean
of Death", Perseus delivered Andromeda, which represents the
"Treasure hard to attain" which is invested with magical properties:
its finder obtains the power to make witchcraft, to fulfill wishes,
to become invisible and invulnerable, to change his shape, to have
revelations, to conquer space and time, to become immortal. ("The
Origins and History of Consciousness" by E. Neumann...p.206-207)
But, as previously mentioned ... anyone who suffered the pains of
Rebirth, can in the same way, rightfully say that he/she has slain
his own Dragon, and this is the reason why so many other Gods are
also represented with a Dragon or Horned Serpent...or why the High
Reincarnate Lamas Ceremonial Dresses always had Dragons on
them...because the Dragon symbolically represents the Victory of the
Conquest of the Forces of Darkness... and of Life Eternal over
Material Death!
In short, the Dragon is the Symbol of Rebirth and Immortality!
You see, it is always the same story getting repeated
continuously everywhere, all the time.... because as beautifully said
by Dr. John Gray in his "Near Eastern Mythology" book, published by
The Hamlyn Group, 1969...in regards to the Kingship of God in the
flesh....
" The mythological imagery of the New Year Liturgy remained the
central theme of God's "Showdown" with the forces of Chaos. God as a
(living) King, whose presence and power to sustain his Order, against
the menace of Chaos were experienced anew at each New Year Festival."
"God's Triumph over the Sea..., as for instance in Psalms
74,12-14, particularly as the Covenant with its historical prelude in
the Great Deliverance was sacramentally celebrated at the New Year
Festival. The adversaries over whom God triumphs are usually depicted
as Sea-Monsters. So God is praised in this context ...
"But you, O God, are my King from old; working salvation in the
midst of the earth.
It was you who split the Sea by your power; you broke the head of
the monster in the water.
It was you who crushed the head of Leviathan in pieces, and gave
him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness."
Also, in Isaiah 27,1.... the "Deliverance of Israel" (Israel= God
of Before or the Ancient of Days...
"In that day, the Lord shall punish with his sword, his fierce,
great and powerful sword,
Leviathan, the piercing (Horned) Serpent, Leviathan the coiling
Serpent;
And he shall slay the Dragon that is in the Sea."
And again this goes with Revelation 20, 1,2,3...
"And I saw an Angel (Winged-Horse) coming down out of Heaven,
having the key to the Abyss...
He seized the Dragon, that Ancient Serpent, who is the
Devil....and bound him for a thousand years. ..... . After that he
must be released and set free for a short time."
You see, dear fellow dreamers, this is another prophecy which
clearly states that the Immortal Winged-Horse Rider will be back
again in a 1000 years to pull this trick one more time... because
truly, He is "Alpha and Omega!"... and will keep on doing this until
the end of Times... in order to keep some Divine order down here.
So, again, as you can see one more time, history is a eternal
cycle which constantly repeats itself... and wether you call him, by
any of his numerous names...like St-George or St-Michael... the
"Slayer of the Dragon" will always be back...at the "End of Times"...
as stated in Daniel 12, for example...
"At that time, Michael, the Great Prince, who protects your
people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not
happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time
your people - everyone whose name is found written in the book - will
be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will
awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting
contempt. Those who are bright will shine like the brightness of the
heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for
ever and ever. .... Many will go here and there and knowledge shall
be increased." (Words of the Archangel Michael, revealed to Daniel in
a Vision of the Night!)
However, at the present time his visit is of crucial importance
for the eminent survival of the presently dying Earth, as all her
different parts must quickly be reunited under one Peaceful Empire
only.... for the benefit of the whole Creation... and the "Slaying of
the Dragon" marks the Beginning of the New Era!
Thank You!
BATHROOMS [Maintenance, Cleansing and Elimination]
BELONGING [What we are associated with or wish we were]
BRIDGES [How we get across an obstacle or go from here to there]
CELEBRITIES [The well known - famous and infamous]
CLOTHING [What we wear tells us about ourselves and the events we
participate in]
COMEDY [With an accent on puns, funny situations or jokes]
COMMUNICATIONS [From telepathic to devices to signs & symbols]
COMPUTERS [Extensions of our minds, mind tools, communication]
CULTS [Somewhere out there ...]
DIRECTIONS [Ever stop and ask for directions? North, South,
East, West, up, down, ahead, behind, straight, turn, right, left,
make a circle, cross, go through, open, close, mix, add, boil,
cook, simmer, but most of all - follow these instructions
carefully...and don't be shy about asking someone else down the
path, except, of course, for the Big Bad Wolf!!!]
==Commentary by Heratheta on yard sale drm & barney drm(980225)==
yard sale dreamer-avoiding"sudden"and spending time to the right or
left of where that occurred in your dream was your ticket to the
peace a cruise promises but in your dream could not deliver. only
when your boss engendered "sudden" in the time following this dream
would she have been less than helpful.
barney dream-avoiding"but"and spending time to the right or left of
school helped world peace following this dream until the next.
DISCOVERY [New insights and unexpected developments]
DREAMING [Dreams about dreaming]
DRUGS [Healing or Hurting?]
EATING [Getting nourishment for maintenance, growth and pleasure]
ELEVATORS [Going UP or DOWN - Push the right button or else...]
ESCAPE [Get me outta here!!!]
** Dream: The exotic bird by M (980225)**
I had a very baffling dream at a point a few months ago when I was
under great stress. I will shorten the dream and only focus first on
the good part then on the puzzling part. I had intended to have my
palm read because I was so worried about the future, but then changed
my mind.
The good part was like this.
There is a celebration going inside some tents. The occasion seems to
be my son's wedding anniversary. I intend to have my palm read, but
the architect gives me a piece of white material into which to press
my footprint so that I can have my footprint read by a psychic. There
are two other people who want to have their prints read. The psychics
ply their art on the footprint by painting, decorating, and
transforming. The final product that the one lady psychic returns to
me is a beautiful exotic bird. I give the psychic twenty dollars as
today only donations are accepted. Normally the price would have been
twenty-nine dollars. When I hand her the twenty dollars, she gives me
a hundred dollars in change. I ask her why? She answers, "because you
had a fire." (We did have fire in real life.)
Now comes the puzzling part of the dream. I see back flashes of
a man who takes a little girl into his bed. In an earlier segment
this same man had been very cruel and the girl was a young woman
college age when I had been in college. He wanted to see her burn. He
had tied her shoes together so she was rigged and he wanted to see
her burning flesh. I protected and hid the woman against this cruel
man. Now this woman is a little girl and the same man is trying
to take her into his bed. She had a playful and innocent relationship
with him, but now he is getting to attached to her and he cannot let
go of her. I say to the man, "Every time your little girl enters into
an adult relationship, you fall apart because you don't want to keep
her for yourself." The man confesses and begins to cry. I say,
"that's okay, I am a counselor and I want to help you." The man says,
"if you come over to my place I will tell you everything." He takes
the little girl with whom he was beginning an incestuous relationship
to his place and I and my husband follow him there in order to help
him and come clear. When we get to the man's house, it looks
more like a cave going deep inside a mountainside. The man hides and
blocks the way so we cannot get near him. My husband and I call the
police. Several cruisers arrive, but they are empty, no police men in
the cars. But when the man who is hiding and blocking us from
entering sees the cruisers he begins to fire at us. Then a gathering
collects on the outside of the cave, people from the church and my
husband and I discuss everything peacefully among ourselves.
End of dream.
This dream took place a couple of weeks ago. The
only thing that I
could come up with is that when I returned to College at the age of
forty, my husband was so much against it and literally wanted to see
me burn. Now, because we had a fire, we have become close again and
are working together well. Yet I do not want to lose myself in this
relationship.
== Commentary Computer Interprets 'Exotic Bird '(980224)==
Dear Dreamers: The following are dream symbols that came up when I
entered your dreams into the 'DreamUp' software. I hope they help.
Thanks for sharing! Nutcracker
Symbol : Hand / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Hands are extensions of our personalities. They have always been an
image of good. The way we use them in the dream is very significant;
folded on your chest means resignation, peace; clenched fists
symbolize passion and protest; we can lift our hands in anger or in
surrender; we use them to bless and to curse; to cover our eyes from
something. Think of the posture of your hands and relate it to the
rest of the dream.
Symbol : White / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
White symbolizes the purest form of spirituality. A symbol of hope
and innocence. It may be inviting you to shed light on something.
It could also be commenting on someone dressed in white in your
dream.
Symbol : Colors / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Colors almost always appear in abundance in dreams and they shouldn't
be taken into account unless they have an important role in the
dream or they stand out in some way. Reflect on the way that you use
a certain color in your everyday life and consider how much it
influences you. Do you normally say things like black mood, green
with envy, feeling blue, yellow-bellied, etc. Or maybe you have a
special personal meaning for a color.
Symbol : Two / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
The number two suggests the need to select between two things, paths,
decisions, etc.
Symbol : Numbers / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Numbers usually work more as personal symbols than as universal
symbols and therefore are best interpreted by the dreamer. If you
wish to see the universal interpretation of a specific number check
the symbol for that number.
Symbol : Crowd / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
When three or more people appear in a dream they are considered a
crowd. Whenever a crowd appears in a dream the dreamer is being told
that a decision needs to be taken. Generally the dream tells us what
decision we should take.
Symbol : One / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
One symbolizes unity, loneliness, sometimes God or a god.
Symbol : Birds / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Birds frequently symbolize the escape from an undesirable situation.
If the birds flies away from a certain situation, the dreamer has
taken the subconscious decision to get away from that situation in
real life. But if there is a bird present and it isn't flying away
then the dreamer hasn't found a way to free himself/herself of the
undesirable situation.
Symbol : Fire / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Fire is almost always the symbol for anger. Anger is something hard
to control, while some hold it inside others let it on the loose.
The energy that anger involves is something that has to be dealt
with. You must find the way to release this anger, or if the case
doesn't permit it, then you must get away from what is causing it.
But fire is not always anger, it denotes strong emotions and
passions. In any case it is important to channel this creative
energy. The idea is to not let the fire get out of control.
Symbol : Person / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
In the majority of cases all other people involved in a dream will
represent some aspect of the dreamer. People we don't know but seem
to be like someone we know will also represent some aspect of the
dreamer. People that we don't know at all represent something new, a
new aspect in the dreamer's life. When the person in the dream is
someone we recognize then we must stop to think what this person
represents to us ( attraction, intelligence, stupidity, etc.) or if
we have some kind of influence over this person ( emotional,
financial, etc.) or maybe he/she has something that distinguishes
him/her ( shy, trustworthy, etc.). Whichever the case, whatever you
feel that person is symbolizing, the dream is usually about you. In
other words, if you see someone who you think is highly intelligent,
the symbol will be about your own intelligence. It is also
important to notice the gender of the dream person. A male will
represent masculine energy; rationality, creative boldness,
enterprise, courage. A female or feminine energy stands for
feelings, intuition, relatedness, sensitivity and the like. Sometimes
the dream will actually be about the relationship with the other
person, but it is safer and more objective to see them as a
representation of yourself first. Take responsibility for what you
project on a dream person and learn from what they are teaching you
about yourself.
Symbol : Bed / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Beds are associated with rest, so this could simply be a reflection
of your need to take things more calmly. But there is also the
sexual connotation and perhaps a reference to the daily task of
making the bed, maybe you need to neaten up something in your life.
Symbol : School / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Symbolizes a search for knowledge.
Symbol : Buildings / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Buildings of any type are usual in dreams and they represent the
dreamers physical body. In real life the body is the house of our
thoughts, feelings, desires and beliefs.
Symbol : Bonds / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
To find yourself bound by cords, handcuffs, chains or anything else
is a symbol of restriction. Here the important thing is to realize
why you are being restrained. Pay attention to how you felt being
restrained and to why you were being restrained. Maybe it was for
your own good and the dream is telling you that you should restrain
yourself. Or maybe the opposite is true and you feel that some
influence in your life is restraining you. And maybe this influence
is an aspect of yourself or maybe it's someone else who is
restraining you.
Symbol : Cave / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
On the whole, the dream of a cave is likely to be somewhat daunting.
In most world myths a cave symbolizes a place of initiation, the
underworld, the place of the dead, though also a shelter. The Hindus
saw caves as places of the heart. If you were taking refuge, from
what? If you were exploring, maybe this represents an inner search
you need to do.
Symbol : Obstacle / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
An obstacle suggests a limitation. In real life we use obstacles,
like a fence, to keep something out or to keep something in. An
obstacle symbolizes something that you must overcome.
Symbol : Car / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
A vehicle is a symbol of one's self specially when the dreamer is
driving or inside the vehicle. The road or path taken with the
vehicle is a symbol of one's life. If the driver is the dreamer it
symbolizes his conviction of being in control of where he's going
unless the vehicle is out of control anyway. If the driver is someone
else the dreamer might be feeling as if someone is leading the way
in life and he has no control over this. The road is an important
part also, it might take you down, up, winding, etc. The condition
of the road is also important. A clean easy going road means your
life is easy going, a rough obstacle filled path would represent a
life full of constant obstacles.
Symbol : Path / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Any path or road symbolizes your life, or better yet, how you see
your life. A path might take you down, up, winding, etc. The
condition of the path is important, where a clean easy going road
means your life is easy going, a rough obstacle filled path would
represent a life full of constant obstacles. Try to analyze the path
or road in the light of your recent concerns, watch for the aspects
which seem similar between the path and how you see your life.
Symbol : Church / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
When a church appears in the dream you probably have a problem of
spiritual nature.
Symbol : Emotions / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Feelings and emotions in dreams are a reflection of these same
feelings in your waking life. In order to identify what causes a
feeling or emotion in your waking life you must associate the symbol
that causes that particular feeling or emotion in your dream with a
particular situation in your waking life. For instance, if you fear a
beast in your dream and you associate that beast with your own rage,
it probably means that you are afraid of your own rage or of your
reactions when you are enraged.
== Commentary by DrD on Exotic Bird(980228)==
Dear Fellow Dreamers,
we have here two most wonderful dreams to
interpret...and they will be my last ones for a while. Firstly,
"Exotic Bird" an obviously very interesting of the Instruction
category which I will only interpret for today the first part as the
second will need further investigation... and secondly, as a prize,
we have "Xena's Most Fantastic Miraculous Transformation" which just
happens to be another of them very rare Trinitarian "Big" Dream....
After these last two interpretations, I will be taking
a break... in order to see if a few are following... and to find out
if people like my interpretations and if they understand what I am
talking about? Also, it will give the opportunity for others to say
something, because we are supposed to share comments...aren't we?
And, to tell you honestly, I consider my interpretations to be some
form of comments in regards to your dreams.... so, I would appreciate
to receive some feedbacks... because it is quite obvious that my
theories are definitely different than anything else on the market,
you will agree!
Very interestingly, as I turned on my computer, the
Core #33 came in and I pleasantly noticed that my good friend
Nutcracker, who is a prodigious dreamer who dreams herself alone an
all-star average of some 600 dreams per year, which means that she is
aware, or actually, knows that one person may have more than one
dream per night! This is a major observation... and I totally agree
with her in this respect, having had the experience at many occasions
myself. This is something very useful to realize because in the case
of Mary B.. Dream...her dream is actually... two dreams!! OK?
Secondly, she has been very kind in assembling for our
collective observation, one of them mechanical interpretation....
based on the basically unfounded and totally uninspired theory of
symbol meaning derived from the mortal Freudian and Jungian works...
upon which are set the base of modern so-called psychology. In my
point of view, these works are very human and consist of about 2% of
inspiration and 98% perspiration... and if you try to make some sense
basing yourself on that... your poor starving souls will keep on
starving to death in total darkness.
Now, since we are talking about theory, let me expose
DrD's very simple Dream Classification General Outlines... and see if
you can "easier" relate to this "better" Architectural Dream Analysis
Intra-Structure.
OK! in regards to dream categories... these are the ones which I
recognize....although all dreams fall into the larger "Instruction
and Guidance Department from the Other World"!=20
a)- Trinitarian Dreams... in which a person, in its ghost form
gets to meet its Individual Spirit...or Guardian Angel, in other
terms.
b)- Transfigurational Dreams... in which a person transfigures
into the ghost body of a previous life. This type can also be
referred to as Dreams of Previous Lives although they are not exactly
that in most cases.
c)- Dreams of the Deads....or Dreams of the Departed... in which
you get to meet deceased persons...relatives, friends or strangers...
who usually come to give guidance.
d)- Dreams of the Livings... because we already have the ghost
form from birth we may also meet living ones in the other side...
some of them are very powerful too.
e)- Dreams of Instruction.... or the type that instruct people on
certain things which could never be learnt in the flesh.
f)- Dreams of Guidance.... similar to the last mentioned... but
will indicate to the dreamer what he should do... or guide towards
that end. Very often you could say that these dreams are often plain
Warnings.
g)- Dreams of Pure "Archetypal" Nature... which by displaying a
certain archetype will reveal a factor to be understood...whether
time, position in the other world or some identity.
h)- Precognitive Dreams.... which fall in different
sub-categories...
1)- Dreams of Events of the Future...(foresee an
earthquake, a death, an accident, a lottery win, the actual birth of
a child...etc.) They become prophetic dreams if one dares to speak
about them and they are often reduced to the "Deja Vu" category for
different reasons. (The one which I prefer is the precognitive Wet
Ones!)
2)- Health Problem Warning Dreams.... many persons who
contract cancer for example get this type of dreams.
3)- Symbolic Prophetic Dreams... possibly the hardest ones
to decipher. It is only usually when we get to find all the pieces of
the puzzle together that we understand the meaning of the message.
i)- Sexual Dreams... Wet Ones...which the Greeks were
interpreting as rewards from Heaven, where Gods...and Goddesses would
come down to earth at night to give a treat to the ones they love...
but very often they fit in other categories also and personally I
kind of like the precognitive ones of this category!
j)- Plain Dreams of No Apparent Interest...where imagination and
the daily life scenes seem to mix together... including these Lucid
dreams deprived of any revelations of any kind. The only thing you
can appreciate from them, is the simple fact that you can realize
that your ghost body was doing something on the other side while your
flesh body was sound asleep in the bed. So, in resume I
see only about ten major categories... but these can also blend
together...and a dream may very well belong to many categories... as
the Dream of the Winged-horse for example.
The only other type of dream, that I can think of, is the
Material Dream...like something we would like to do in the future...
like for the starving kids in the world who dream of eating a full
course meal...
................................
OK! Now back to our present dream business, as usual,
firstly the dreams, starting with the first one...
From MB, The exotic bird, Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:29:18
I had a very baffling dream at a point a few months ago when I was
under great stress. I will shorten the dream and only focus first on
the good part then on the puzzling part. I had intended to have my
palm read because I was so worried about the future, but then changed
my mind.
The good part was like this.
There is a celebration going inside some tents. The occasion seems to
be my son's wedding anniversary. I intend to have my palm read, but
the architect gives me a piece of white material into which to press
my footprint so that I can have my footprint read by a psychic. There
are two other people who want to have their prints read. The psychics
ply their art on the footprint by painting, decorating, and
transforming. The final product that the one lady psychic returns to
me is a beautiful exotic bird. I give the psychic twenty dollars as
today only donations are accepted. Normally the price would have been
twenty-nine dollars. When I hand her the twenty dollars, she gives me
a hundred dollars in change. I ask her why? She answers, "because you
had a fire." (We did have fire in real life.)
Now comes the puzzling part of the dream. I see back
flashes of a man who takes a little girl into his bed. In an earlier
segment this same man had been very cruel and the girl was a young
woman college age when I had been in college. He wanted to see her
burn. He had tied her shoes together so she was rigged and he wanted
to see her burning flesh. I protected and hid the woman against this
cruel man. Now this woman is a little girl and the same man is
trying to take her into his bed. She had a playful and innocent
relationship with him, but now he is getting to attached to her and
he cannot let go of her. I say to the man, "Every time your little
girl enters into an adult relationship, you fall apart because you
don't want to keep her for yourself." The man confesses and begins to
cry. I say, "that's okay, I am a counselor and I want to help you."
The man says, "if you come over to my place I will tell you
everything." He takes the little girl with whom he was beginning an
incestuous relationship to his place and I and my husband follow him
there in order to help him and come clear. When we get to the
man's house, it looks more like a cave going deep inside a
mountainside. The man hides and blocks the way so we cannot get near
him. My husband and I call the police. Several cruisers arrive, but
they are empty, no police men in the cars. But when the man who is
hiding and blocking us from entering sees the cruisers he begins to
fire at us. Then a gathering collects on the outside of the cave,
people from the church and my husband and I discuss everything
peacefully among ourselves.=
End of dream.
This dream took place a couple of weeks ago. The only thing that I
could come up with is that when I returned to College at the age of
forty, my husband was so much against it and literally wanted to see
me burn. Now, because we had a fire, we have become close again and
are working together well. Yet I do not want to lose myself in this
relationship.
.............................
Dear MB,
your first dream, as you call the pleasant part, is
very heavenly and very spiritual... in many senses... and it falls
into the purely Symbolic "Instruction and Guidance" category...
First of all, in this dream, it deals with a familial
gathering of people, outside in tents... which means a gathering
close to nature...where people will sleep with their heads close to
the ground of the Earth. Actually, you will find very pleasant to
hear that people, of Ancient Civilizations, used to perform these
gatherings, such as the Celts for example, who would assemble in
large numbers, in some sacred spots, at certain given times, like
around the Summer Solstice, to perform, what is referred today as,
mysterious Spiritual Fertility Festivals...Rituals which have been
called also Spiritual Orgies!
Now, I don't want you to imagine, because I said
"Spiritual Orgies" that people would engage themselves at copulating
madly at random.... No...they were "Soul Fertility Festivals"...
presided by the Druids, which name meant the same thing as
Dreams...who were assisted by the "Psychic" Wisewomen. The root of
the word "Psyche" is "Soul".
So, the people would gather in them places to initiate
themselves to the Spiritual Dream Realm.... and would share their
dreams...and so much more and eventually would end celebrating in
pure allegory the fact of the immortality of our Souls.
Actually, your dream is very reminiscent of this flavour,
and I wonder if your pleasant "divine message of your soul" would not
be an indication that you lived some type of similar event in the
past.
Also, in your dream, you say that this event felt like the
commemoration the wedding anniversary of your Son... which is of the
same tendency merging towards the remembrance of important events of
the past... which we commemorate...which means "remember
together".... and celebrate together.
Now, this thing about the "Wedding of your Son"... is
another important clue, because this has to do with the
Transformation and the Exotic Bird of your Footprint.
Let me briefly explain, if you spread open an old
"distorted" Bible... and go to Revelation 19,7 ...where they speak
about a Wedding... but change, everywhere you see it, the word Lamb
for Angel. Because, Jerome who translated the Bible...misinterpreted
the word "Angelus" (Angel) for "Agnelus" (Lamb)... You know "Lamb of
God"... should correctly be "Angel of God"!
So, the Wedding of the Son ....with the Angel, which flies
in the midst of Heaven...is the same thing as your own relationship
of your own self with your own Exotic Bird... your own individual
Angel of your own Footprint.
In the Muslim Lore, the Holy scriptures classify these
individual Guardian Angels as "Birds of Omen"....
" And every single man will find a bird-of-omen fastened to his own
neck!"
.... neck or feet...or to any other part of the flesh body
I couldn't care less... but, we all have individually speaking...an
Individual "Bird of Omen" attached to every single one of us... and
speaking of Good Omen... I think that it is a good Sign or Omen that
you were invited to your Son's Wedding...because you can read in 19,9
... "Blessed are those who are invited to the Wedding of the
Angel!"
...and if you wish to know about which Angel... just keep on
reading a little further down ... in regards to the Spirit of
Prophecy ... and the Rider of the White Horse...
OK! Back to your dream, a very funny part indeed, when came
the time for you to pay the "Psychic"...who could have been one of
your own ghost of one of your previous lives...she could not ask any
money from you... because we cannot charge for revealing heavenly
things... because some people are rich while others are poor and
everyone must be entitled to "free access" to the water of life...
but those who can afford are most welcome to give donations... to the
good "Psychics" or "Doctors of the Souls"...and one way or another
you will always get much more in return, in the form of Spiritual
Cash... the Good Knowledge that you can bring with you on the Other
Side.
Now, about the FOOTPRINT...it just means that when we walk on
Earth we often leave marks, traces or footprints of our earlier
passages...of our previous lives of the past... which is the reason
why the "Psychic" knew about your past... even of the Fire.
Anyway, dear Mary, you will get to learn more by reading the
following interpretation... and in regards to your other dream...
about the weird guy who wants to kidnap the college girl...well this
cruel pyromaniac killer type has been reported in a few dreams
lately... so, we do not know yet if it would be the same individual
or a group of them but, I kind of suspect that because of their
modern nature... that they or he are/is a fairly recent addition in
the dream realm... and could be the ghost of our "incest oriented"
friend Sigmund Freud...just to make you laugh and reassure you a
little.
Actually, my friend the "Celestial Policeman" is working on his
case and when we catch him we will let you know.
So, my verdict, for the pleasant part, is ... "The Exotic Bird
is You!"
Thank you M, for your Most Wonderful Dreams.
DrD
== Commentary by Heratheta on exotic bird drm (980301)==
to add to the interpretations already given:
bird dram-there was a lot of "seems" and "don't want to" in the
context of this dream and so looking to the direction right or left
of the tents, from where this dream was dreamt, would afford peace to
the dreamer away from these above enquoted impediments to peace. it
is only for the day following the dream and so then it was
interesting to read the dreamer's comment that the dreamer "didn't
want to" get lost in the relationship. this embodiment of the
enquoted is very dangerous. see the tragic consequences in many other
dreams at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/
** Dream: the saving jlizard by ? (980309)**
Dream Title: the saving jlizard
Date of Dream: 3/9/98 5:55
I dreamt that I was in a mall with some of my classmates. First I
was looking at graphing calculators in a store that I didn't remember
going into. Then I went further back into the store where I heard
some strange, evil(as was my opinion in the dream) music. I saw the
player of this music and it was a person, who someone commented to
me, was thought to be a stalker.
I waked further back into the store into the clothing department,
there three girls complemented me on something that I can't seem to
remember. Then I walked on, I saw a girl who I like and tried to
warn her about the person playing the music. She looked scared and
tried to run out of the store but the person playing the music jumped
off the pedestal where he was playing and grabbed her. The three
girls I mentioned earlier tried to get him off of her but they
couldn't. I ran over to her and threw him off of her, he ran away,
she was crying. One of the three girls said "you saved her life!!"
to which I replied "you'll never have to worry about him again."
Right before I woke up I could vividly see the girl I had saved
tied up in the back of the music player's car. I woke up with an
extreme feeling of anger.
Comments by Dreamer
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EYES [The organs of sight...the window to the soul...]
FEAR [What scares us]
FOOD [The source of our physical nourishment]
** Dream: "She'll be apples" by V (980313)**
During the late afternoon, I was walking with my family around our
orchard full of apple trees laden with ripe fruit. We were staying in
the country, at my father's "estate". The saxophone player from INXS
was with us for the evening meal. He seemed a sad man who didn't know
his own value.
We were all avoiding the issue of Michael Hutchence, whose ghost I
could see behind him.
== Commentary by Heratheta on apple orchard dream (980314)==
"laden" was asking for a rest in yourself and others. and, where this
orchard geographically lays relative to the sleep site where the
dream was dreamt lets you know where peace had lain. standing at the
sleep site and looking toward the orchard to your right or left laid
the path of peace. the way to avoid ghosts. thin ones like in your
dream or thick ones like the people possessed by them.
FIRE [Flames bring light, heat and destruction/transformation]
FLYING [Confidence, Power, Freedom & Perspective]
** Dream: Practice Flying/Xena Princess Warrior Transforms Into a
Hawk (980221)**
Dream Title: Practice Flying/Xena Princess Warrior Transforms Into a
Hawk
Date of Dream: Saturday February 21, 1998 Dream
I was learning to fly. I was out in this field, I had driven to the
field with a bunch of people. It was a big airplane show,
exposition. First we flew in a small aircraft and we practiced
parachuting. I was running off a hill hang-gliding and almost made
it so I felt that I could do it. I caught another gust and I flew
pretty good. I remember landing and it was a little rough but I did
it ok, I was happy that I was able to fly. I was out in this field
and I saw Xena and she flew over and landed and turned into a hawk
and flew away. This really moved me. These other friends of her
came over and I told them about Xena transforming into a hawk, I was
really moved with emotion.
Comments by Dreamer The feel of flying was very exhilarating. I
don't often have flying dreams. I'm not sure why the Xena
transforming into a hawk was so emotionally moving to me. It really
touched my soul.
== Commentary Computer Interprets 'Practice Flying' (980224)==
Dear Dreamers: The following are dream symbols that came up when I
entered your dreams into the 'DreamUp' software. I hope they help.
Thanks for sharing! Nutcracker
Symbol : Flying / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Flying or floating, in general, represent a sensation of well-being.
Flying and then ending up on the ground or below ground level means
that you are passing from well-being to a state of depression. Or it
might happen that you start off on the ground and end up flying in
which case the meaning would be opposite, you are ready to take off
and leave your problems behind.
Symbol : Animals / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Animals represent our instinctual passional nature. The meaning of
this symbol will depend on the associations that you make with the
specific animal. Size and the manner in which the creatures act in
relation to you will tell you something about your own feelings and
reactions.
Symbol : Crowd / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
When three or more people appear in a dream they are considered a
crowd. Whenever a crowd appears in a dream the dreamer is being told
that a decision needs to be taken. Generally the dream tells us what
decision we should take.
Symbol : Car / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
A vehicle is a symbol of one's self especially when the dreamer is
driving or inside the vehicle. The road or path taken with the
vehicle is a symbol of one's life. If the driver is the dreamer it
symbolizes his conviction of being in control of where he's going
unless the vehicle is out of control anyway. If the driver is someone
else the dreamer might be feeling as if someone is leading the way
in life and he has no control over this. The road is an important
part also, it might take you down, up, winding, etc. The condition
of the road is also important. A clean easy going road means your
life is easy going, a rough obstacle filled path would represent a
life full of constant obstacles.
Symbol : Path / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Any path or road symbolizes your life, or better yet, how you see
your life. A path might take you down, up, winding, etc. The
condition of the path is important, where a clean easy going road
means your life is easy going, a rough obstacle filled path would
represent a life full of constant obstacles. Try to analyze the path
or road in the light of your recent concerns, watch for the aspects
which seem similar between the path and how you see your life.
Symbol : Inequality / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Inequality usually comes up in a dream where there is a comparison
between something small and something large, something high and
something low, etc. This suggests something that is not in
equilibrium, and may suggest a feeling of unjustified inferiority or
superiority in the dreamer. This doesn't mean the dreamer is inferior
or superior, only that he/she feels that way.
Symbol : Running / Running away from Dream Dictionary
The act of running in dreams suggests that the dreamer is evading or
running away from something that is a part of their life, especially
when they have the impression that something or someone undesirable
is behind them. If something follows or chases after the dreamer,
that something is probably the obstacle that the dreamer refuses to
face in real life. To run escaping something is usually accompanied
by the feeling of fear. Which is self explanatory since what we
don't want to face usually causes fear in us. Usually this fear has
no reason to be so once the problem is faced the fear disappears.
Symbol : Wind / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
A cool comfortable breeze symbolizes spirituality and liberty. If
there are strong winds, the dream is referring to a sudden and
drastic change in the dreamers life.
Symbol : Emotions / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Feelings and emotions in dreams are a reflection of these same
feelings in your waking life. In order to identify what causes a
feeling or emotion in your waking life you must associate the symbol
that causes that particular feeling or emotion in your dream with a
particular situation in your waking life. For instance, if you fear a
beast in your dream and you associate that beast with your own rage,
it probably means that you are afraid of your own rage or of your
reactions when you are enraged.
Symbol : Birds / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
Birds frequently symbolize the escape from an undesirable situation.
If the birds flies away from a certain situation, the dreamer has
taken the subconscious decision to get away from that situation in
real life. But if there is a bird present and it isn't flying away
then the dreamer hasn't found a way to free himself/herself of the
undesirable situation.
Symbol : Person / Meaning from Dream Dictionary
In the majority of cases all other people involved in a dream will
represent some aspect of the dreamer. People we don't know but seem
to be like someone we know will also represent some aspect of the
dreamer. People that we don't know at all represent something new, a
new aspect in the dreamer's life. When the person in the dream is
someone we recognize then we must stop to think what this person
represents to us ( attraction, intelligence, stupidity, etc.) or if
we have some kind of influence over this person ( emotional,
financial, etc.) or maybe he/she has something that distinguishes
him/her ( shy, trustworthy, etc.). Whichever the case, whatever you
feel that person is symbolizing, the dream is usually about you. In
other words, if you see someone who you think is highly intelligent,
the symbol will be about your own intelligence. It is also
important to notice the gender of the dream person. A male will
represent masculine energy; rationality, creative boldness,
enterprise, courage. A female or feminine energy stands for
feelings, intuition, relatedness, sensitivity and the like. Sometimes
the dream will actually be about the relationship with the other
person, but it is safer and more objective to see them as a
representation of yourself first. Take responsibility for what you
project on a dream person and learn from what they are teaching you
about yourself.
== Commentary by DrD on Practice Flying/Xena (980312)==
Dear Xena,
long time no see! This is the most beautiful dream that
you will ever get and that you ever had...in every single one of your
lifetimes!
This is a great Trinitarian Dream... and I am happy
that it touched your soul because it was really meant to do exactly
that. You see, this divine message which was perceived by your
Immortal Soul tells me who you are. Would you like to know who you
are?
Well, you are Xena! Oh! not the one in the Cartoons... but the
real Xena!
The Xena that you saw in the dream was the Ghost of your
previous life as Xena and she only took that familiar appearance so
that you may easily recognize who you were in your previous life or
lives!
You see, a long time back, in times immemorial in Greece, you
were the Daughter in Law, of the very famous Hermes (Mercury)... the
immortal Rider of the Winged-Horse Pegasus...who was the "Celestial
Messenger of the Gods of Olympus" and the "Light of the World".
Anyway, in that life Xena, you married Daphnis, his own stupid
son, a great Poet mind you, who had made the promise of eternal
fidelity to you, but who eventually cheated you because he slept with
Princess Chimaera...who had gotten him drunk. Consequently, he was
made blind and finally died falling off a cliff or some big Rock.
Very interestingly, Xena wears two other names such as Echenais
and Lycea...and was considered to be an Immortal Nymphe... which
clearly suggest that she had many lives in Greece alone.
Now, back to your wonderful Xena "Air Show Dream"... I would
like you to pay strong attention to the following words... which were
written by the Immortal Rider of the Winged-Horse in Tibet some 1250
years ago...
"Grasping the True nature of dreams,
May I train myself in the clear Light of the Miraculous
Transformation.
May I recognize whatever appeareth as being my own Spiritual forms,
May the Trinity be realized.
Let it come that I obtain the non-forgetting intellect and remember
my past lives!"
(words of Guru Padma Sambhava, Lung-ta's Rider, Tibet, 8th
century A.D., extracted from "Root Verses" of "The Bardo Thodol" )
.... because this dream shows basically your whole Trinity... the
Trinity of your Immortal Unique Individual Soul... which animates
your different bodies... namely...
a) ...your flesh body that was sleeping in your bed
b) ...your present "reflex" body of this present life which was
trying to learn how to fly like your own predecessors...
c) ... your Xena ghost as you in a previous life
d) ... and finally the Hawk ... which is your essential eternal
Spiritual form ... your own Guardian Angel, your Bird of Omen, your
Individual Spirit.
Having already exposed my theories, I do not see the need to
repeat myself in this regard... but feel free to ask any questions
and I will be more than happy to guide you if you wish.
However, it would be very interesting if you could, fully
describe this Hawk Spirit of yours... because its correct
identification will help in precisely defining who else you were or
may have been in the past.
For instance, I know that a certain Russian Bogatyr by the name
of Volga could transform himself into a Hawk... and a certain
Egyptian God by the name of Seker was also a Hawk... a Sparrow-Hawk
they say.
In any case, dearest Warrior Princess Xena, since this dream
really touched your soul, I will share with you one of mine which
really touched my soul... and I would appreciate if you could tell me
from reading it ... if you believe that you could learn how to fly
again... in the Sky above the ephemerous mortal world.
However, before I tell you the dream of the Winged-Horse... let me
give you some oneiric background...some 16 years ago, I was the
victim of a puzzling dream in which I mounted and flew on the
spiritual Winged-Horse "Pegasus"... similarly to Mohammed in the year
621 of this era and the Greek hero Bellerophon in times immemorial...
who both also did the same in time preserved "Most Famous Dreams"!
I have found over a 100 persons who also flew on this
Winged-Horse... but in only 3 occasions it is clearly stated that it
was in dreams... and very interestingly... in Ancient Greece... where
all the main Gods and Heroes have all flown on this Spiritual
Horse...this Winged-Horse Dream was interpreted as an Allegory of the
Immortality of the Soul!!!! And God knows that Ancient Greeks were
famous for Logic!
So, hold on to your hat....
The Winged-Horse Dream
During the Night of Saint-John the
Baptist of 1981, I had a very strange "Lucky Feeling Dream". After
the usual traditional Celebrations of our "National" Patron, I
peacefully fell asleep in my "customized" bed... in my school
bus...which was my nomadic house at the time...which was then parked
under a large Willow tree, on the farm of a friend of mine, located
some 25 miles N.E. of Ottawa. It was one of those, thunder and
lightening hot humid summer night....this is why I call it the
"Spirit in the Sky".
In the dream, when my soul, my mind, my
consciousness, my anima woke up.....I was without body.....floating
outside of my school bus....in the almost total obscurity of the
Night. As in real life it took a while before my eyes got adjusted to
this minimal intensity of light condition. Yet, I wasn't feeling any
alteration of consciousness.... seeing, feeling, smelling and hearing
everything as usual.
Once my vision got accustomed to
darkness and could discern things, I expanded my scope (of vision)
and saw directly in front of me, at may be 30 feet distance... an
"Illuminated" human form, standing alone immobile, "radiating" in the
darkness.
To my utmost surprise, I soon came
to realize that this "Ghost", which was dressed in jeans, Afghan long
shirt and sandals, looked exactly like myself at the time.
Then, as I was wondering in my mind ...if this
shining body was really me?...and if so, what was I doing alone
immobile in the darkness of the night?..... a very strange happening
occurred. My soul transmigrated in the head of this luminescent
"Speculum" or "Spectre" or "Mirror" of myself.
For a short laps of a moment, it
was obscurity in the New Body, but opening my eyes ....I could see
through my orbits...closing either eyes the luminescent tip of my
nose. Then, bending my head and raising my hands...I observed that my
hands as well as the rest of my body was luminous to my own
view...and touching hands then other parts of my shining body...I
realized that it was feeling the exact same as the other one of my
body....the one which I am more familiar with which was sleeping in
the Bus.
So, I said to myself..." Holy
Smoke! What is this?" I did not know what to think. Was I Dead? Is
this Death or After Life? In any case, I felt good, and still myself
in this New Condition....and couldn't care less about the rest...but
I only thought that this was only one of these OOBE.... Again, just
as in the previous stage, there was no alteration, whatsoever, of
consciousness and I was still feeling exactly as myself in my own
skin. However, I was again questioning myself as to the logic reason
and purpose of my presence in this state....and yet had some strong
intuitive impressions that something was just about to happen.
Suddenly, in the calmness of the
Rainless Moment, among remote and sporadic Thunder and far-sighted
Lightening, I began hearing some constantly increasing strange
unfamiliar noises originating from high above. I looked at the
Zenith...trying to locate the source of these sounds....but the calm,
yet dense, low clouds whitened by the Moon's Glow were preventing
such immediate observation of this approaching thing whatever it was.
It appeared to me that these
sounds were very similar to those made by large fluttering
wings....like those created by a large bird in verticular descent to
the nest. But what I heard among them was very totally
incredible....because these already strange noises were accompanied
by occasional "Neighing"....yes..."Neighing of a= Horse"!!!
As the noises were constantly
amplifying....giving the strong indication that this thing was
getting obviously closer every second...my eyes were riveted to the
point in the clouds where I thought they were coming
from....wondering if my dream was going to end before I would see
this thing which was taking a long time to appear....so far it was
coming from.
To my unashamed incredibility,
finally, in a spontaneous "Whirlwind"...the dense clouds opened
up...straight above...exactly where I was expecting...to reveal an
unbelievably majestic "Winged Horse"..."Pompuos Hippous Ass first"
...mightily beating the air with its large wings, in order to slow
down its rapid and straight vertical descent to the Earth... straight
above me. From my position, I felt the major air displacements
created by such Beast and was able to recognize through them the
distinctive characteristic smell of Horse's Sweat!!!
The Incredible Flying Horse
was, just like my New Self, also luminescent in darkness, and
carrying its trajectory, finally landed ....touching the ground hind
legs first, immediate to me, slightly rubbing my right side ...flank
to flank.
A most remarkable detail was
to notice an unexpected feature of this magic Horse was the presence
of a trio of super thin translucid dancing flames, about a feet high
and located at the shoulders and junction of the wings...surrounding
on 3 sides, except the front, what appeared to be a natural saddle
spot of different hair colour.
Then, the Winged Horse,
turning its head backward, fixed me straight in my eyes with its most
intelligent eyes ....and telepathically invited me in a very charming
way to mount= Him!!!
Again, one more time, I
could not believe my eyes, but still it seemed obvious that He was
evidently there for the specific purpose of carrying me somewhere
with Him.
As you may fully
anticipate, knowing me a little, it was with both pure joy and
honour, and without any reserve of hesitation that I, alone in the
darkness, solemnly mounted It and proudly sat between the
electro-magnetic flames...ready for anything.
Then the "Horse of
Fire", walked a few steps, ambled then started to gallop..then
galloped briefly...then stretched its wings...and we were
air-borne....and flew ... in the sky. I felt the wind in my face, as
we , I mean the Horse , rapidly ascended. For a few moments, as I was
wrapping my arms around his warm neck, in a moment of pure
exaltation, I only remember seeing the lights of the small sleeping
village as we entered the clouds...I had the most sincere impression
of being extremely lucky of getting the rare privilege of living
something else than our miserable earthly lives.
Then, for another time,
I wondered but this time as to the identity of the Horse... who am I
was answered ... who he was(my ghost) was answered, but who was It
(Horse) was not yet answered...and again, surprisingly, as in any
other similar times in this story....my mind again transmigrated in
the Head of the Horse... which I know, now , to be my own Spirit, but
which I did not know then...and carried on through the clouds.
From then on, we were in the realm of
the 3 times...everything from the past, present and future became
instantaneous.
Firstly, I found myself...really...in
a daily vision, in Bodnath, in the Kingdom of Nepal, as far as, 8 km
from Kathmandu, and only 20,000 km from my actual sleeping spot, at
the base of a semi-hemispherical mound known as the "Temple of the
Eyes of the World"...the "Maguta Chorten" ...or "Temple of Bodnath".
In another flash, I found myself in a "red brick paved
yard", where an Older Lama, was surrounded by a few little long hair
dogs, which I immediately recognized as Lhasa Apsos.
In my mind it was saying..." You know what are
these dogs....then, you will find them there, ...and you will do
everything necessary to protect them... then you will know...."
Then, in another flash, I spotted myself at the
foot of the Highest Mountain in the World. I had no idea then, but by
looking at some pictures, I soon came to realize once again that it
was Mount Everest. And in my mind it was saying...
" Do you need a Signature?"
Then, again surprisingly, as to indicate that I
was having a revelation, in a "zap", I was standing in front of an
hospital bed , in a Canadian style hospital room, in which I was
talking to a good friend of mine, who had just recently lost his
right arm, sectioned off at the biceps level!!
In this vision....I asked him.. " How did
this happen?".....and he replied..." An accident...I should have
listened to you...and paid attention."
--------------------------------------------
So, when I woke up that memorable morning, I
narrated to all my friends present or in passage, the incredible
"Flight in the Night" experience which I had just dreamt....I had the
impression that it might be related to my Astro....and around 1PM of
the same day, I was visited by Brian Burke of Buckingham and told him
my dream and told him that he looked very much like the victim in my
dream.
I was more or less surprised to learn the same
day that this premonitory vision would fulfill itself, within hours,
before the sunset of the same memorable day!
Around 7 PM, we received a phone call, from the
Civic Hospital in Ottawa, from Brian's Mother, telling us that her
Son, had lost his right arm in the in the Sellers' Wood Chipper where
Brian was working!!!
The following evening I visited Brian, and it
was a "Deja Vu" exactly like in the dream with the same conversation.
So, this was the first time, for me for something like this....
Food for thought!
............................................
So, my dear Xena, as well as others, I invite you all to visit
the "Divine Dreams" site... and look into the Winged-Horse Study...
in which you will find the condensed stories of the more than 100
manifestations of this unique and eternal Angel which is the
Winged-Horse...
http://www.crosswinds.net/vaasa/~dragoon/
Sincerely yours,
DrD .... the Space Age Immortal Winged-Horse Rider
PS: Just a Question...should interpretations be left to computers?
== Commentary by Heratheta on exotic bird drm (980301)==
xena dream- avoiding "big" and "really" to the right and left of the
airshow from where you dreamt this dream would have helped the
dreamer's peace. emotionally moving the dreamer said can wear out and
snap the dreamer into its opposite and then vie versa and so forth
crashing from heights to depths of pain. see the above www. for
examples more if you please. dreams are dangerous light sabres as in
star wars not only ours but a thrashing mix of death dealing waste.
it's good to know where they are so we dream of them and only when we
can avoid their swaths can we witness the tragedy of both darth vadar
and his son. it is also important to note the terrible tragedies
that often ensue speaking of the lives of the actors who play these
parts. this is why I lately speak out on the ed-core dreams only on
days when my dream gives me, indirectly, see peace path above and at
www. reference above, easy opportunity. be careful my friends, tony
p.s. dr.d, I was heartened to read some while back of the
experiences of st. bernard as his interpretation of dreams along with
freud's beyond the pleasure principle, heraclitus's poems, jungs
transcendent function and my www.(see above)have a congruity. perhaps
you can say what mohammed revealed about dreams for all I know is a
story that someone had asked mohammed what a dream suggested and so
the prophet was said to have replied, as I remember,"go to the dream
and find out".
GIFTS [Offerings to or from others]
HOBBIES [Our interests and desires]- COLLECTING THINGS
HOLIDAYS [Time off to ...]
HOSPITAL [A place for treatment, healing and repair]
HOUSE [Where our lives take place]
HOTELS [Temporary Dwelling or Special Event location]
JOURNEYS [Missions away from our home base -explorations]
** Dream: "Down the River" by dreambat (980313) **
I'm taking a kind of vacation riverboat tour down an exotic river.
Maybe the Amazon, maybe just the Ohio. I think some of my family is
with me. It feels like the summer vacations we used to take in
southern Illinois, visiting our relatives that lived on a farm there
for months at a time.
The boat is more along the lines of the one in the Bogart-Hepburn
"The African Queen". Two of the men running the boat find something
in the river they are excited about. Its a piece of an elephants
trunk. I think its kind of yucky. It makes me kind of sick and I want
to avoid it, but also want to appear as though it has little negative
effect. (affect?). Later I'm really bored and decide to try a swim.
I'm somewhat concerned about sharks but jump in and swim around
anyway. Its really hard to swim, I don't seem to get anywhere. It
takes all my will to just stay even with the boat in the stream of
the river. I get out, climbing up a ladder, and think about sharks
again. Something brushes my shoulder. I can't decide if it is a shark
or an old girlfriend. It feels like her skin. I think how hard it
would be to be with her again and how difficult it was to do anything
together with her. She was very willful.
tagesreste/day-residue: changing work again after many years of a
cushy job. Shifting from sales and service to technical & design
work, computers and account management. My wife is overworked,
stressed. my mantra is that I want to work somewhere where I often
say to myself " I can't believe they are paying me to do this!".
=Commentary by MB on Down The River (980315)=
thank you, Richard for the insights on how dreams enlarge the
imagination and the possibilities of one's life. I love it.
Now for the dream by dreambat.
Dear dreambat
If this were my dream, I would pay attention to what my instincts are
saying about this new job of mine. These instincts served you very
well when you decided to leave your willful ex-girl friend. Now all
your senses, skin, eyes, gut instinct are giving you messages. True,
there is the excitement of something new at the beginning of the
dream, but you have to pretend that certain things that the men are
getting excited about do not make you sick. You are working hard and
getting nowhere. You are bored. You are swimming with the sharks!
Not a good dream to be having when you start a new job, I would
think.
Maria
** Dream: Slumming by Dreambat (980316) **
I'm going home. I go through a part of town near the hill. Its a
little hidden away suburban area. I stop in and chat with a black
family there. The guy has plans for his family and life and is doing
very well. I think his wife is very attractive and they seem matched
for one another. I leave and drive through some horrid slums. There
is one particular tunnel I have to get through where there is a blind
spot and I can't control and see that part of the road. I might get
robbed there. I'm tense as I drive through, but nothing happens, I
come out on the main road.
Notes by dreambat: I take this dream to mean I am trying to draw
into my life transition some parts that don't normally get the
attention they deserve. (the black family with plans). None-the-less,
I fear the parts that are just too repressed (slums) to bring them
along, to get past them. And yet to just leave them behind doesn't
work for me either. This is a dark part of my path, (or right off my
path) and at places I have no control over it.
** Dream: "Life Dream" by Dante (980320)**
I have been dreaming I am in the same area since I was about six. I
don't know where it is, but I am there many nights. Very vivid, very
beautiful dreams. I am not an artist, but I am starting to piece
together what I see at night.
So, what do you think?
== Comment by Richard on 'Life Dream' (980320) ==
Hi - D,
I think you have a very deep dream. I'll put this out to the ed
mail list under the penname Dante and title "Life Dream" and see
what others might say.
For me, life dreams like this are an umbilical cord to the
imaginal world. Most of the time, I'm unconscious of the imaginal (vs
imaginary) and miss the flow of stuff. Recurring dreams reconnect
this bridge for me an allow me to see what a rich inner life we have
and neglect (to our own detriment, the inner world seems to get along
without me just fine). Even more important for me, these dreams
leave a feeling, a mood, that is very special, even more special than
the first secret clubhouse I had as a child. The fairy tale of the
Shoes that Danced themselves to Pieces comes to mind - the king who
had to buy new shoes for his daughters because each morning they were
worn out. The hero of the story discovers that they have a secret
world they enter at night, and dance the night away.
For me, the really alchemically sophisticated move here is to bring
the worlds together, the recurring dream world and the daytime world.
This enhances them both. In the Shoes tale, the hero picks one of the
girls as his wife, wisely not the prettiest one. There are perils in
connecting the two worlds. Some people pick the prettiest of girls
and get drowned and overwhelmed by their own imagination, never being
able to find an earthly expression that can match its beauty. Others
pick the one they can control and miss the opportunity of partnership
with the imagination.
I think you have the right track in first getting an aesthetic
handle on this dream series. Sometimes the mood and feeling of these
things are better translated though images. I would be interested in
hearing some of them. I'll bet that they have little differences in
each one that may prove to be like the 'littlest angel'.
- Richard
LOST [Disorientation or abandonment]
LOTTERY DREAMS [Sudden Wealth - Randomness favors the
dreamer]
LOVE [All around us, yet so hard to find and keep]
LUCID DREAMING [Knowing you are Dreaming when you are Dreaming]
MEMORY [Remembering ...In dreams we often struggle with the issue
of memories and remembering a dream which by definition involves
the process of recollection.]
MIRRORS [Reflection of Self]
MUSIC [Melodies of the land within]
NUDITY [What you see is what you get]
** Dream: Unbelievable!! from a 7th Grader (980307)**
Dream Title: Unbelievable!!
Date of Dream: 3/6/98 around 12:00 night
I dreamt that one of my classmates (in grade 7) lifted up her top to
me, just pulling one corner up! Pretty disgusting. Please help. I've
been having really nasty dreams lately.
Comments by Dreamer Isn't that so gross!! Eww!!!
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments
== Commentary by Bob K on Unbelievable!! (980322)==
Ok here's a gem in disguise. Sometimes we get suspect submissions,
like a Make Money Fast junk email, but this one illustrates some
interesting principles even if it's really being submitted by an
anonymous 4th grader.
If it had been my dream, even as a 7th grader, I would have found the
action unbelievable also, but not disgusting at all. Rather it would
have been fascinating depending on which of my classmates was daring
enough to reveal the hidden to me in a quick flash. Was it done on
purpose specially for me or did I inadvertently catch a glimpse of
something I was not supposed to see? My wife thinks I'm a little
wicked when at my age I request an occasional daytime peek at some of
her usually covered feminine charms. The female body has always been
a wonder and mystery to the male self I am in this lifetime. Many
male artists have held the same fascination over the centuries, as
attested to in the paintings and sculptures around the world.
I think it is a sad comment on parts of our confused society that
murder and mayhem are glorified in the movies and TV while guilt
trips confound young people yearning for the proper answers to the
conflicts which arise in adolescence, such as issues of sexuality,
identity, and peer acceptance that would be facing a 7th grader. The
definition of *nasty* changes depending on ones perspective. I ate
some oysters in a San Francisco Oyster House recently where one of my
dinner companions mentioned that Bob's plate with the slimy things
was ready at the pick up counter. Surely, the thought of seeing the
oysters- in an Oyster House no less- was still nasty for her. I can
sympathise with her thouigh because at one point in my life, I
couldn't stand the sight or smell of any seafood and I lived on an
island where seafood is abundant.
If the dreamer were a disgusted young woman, I would ask myself why I
find such revelation to be a threat. In our dreams, our characters
are most always reflections of internal parts of ourselves, and in
this dream we are being shown some unfamiliar sights from a part of
us testing the accepted standards we live by.
== Commentary by Heratheta on pretty disgusting drm (980310)==
peace was to the right or left of this act if sought avoiding
"pretty" for the time between this and the next dream.
PERFORMERS [Entertainers]
PROBLEMS [Situations or difficulties sometimes present choices]
POLITICAL SCENE [Public issues through positions of power]
RELATIONSHIPS [Other parts of ourselves including family which
constitutes the first and earliest of our relationships, often
influencing how we relate to the outside world]
** Dream: Coming Home Domesticated by Stan K. (980307)**
DATE : 7 mar 1998 08:59 DREAM : coming home domesticated
=( Friday night, after my mother went to bed around midnight, I
worked on preparing the item bank of questions for the midterm exam
in computer networking until about 02:30. it seemed a little early
to quit, but I have been feeling down since I got the word that bruce
has cancer tumors all over inside. he was okay a couple weeks ago
and was going to the hospital just for tests. went to sleep after
reading a little. issues of mortality are obviously on my mind. )=
on the upper end of union road, less than a mile from my mother's
house, there is a wooded stretch of road which conceals the ruins of
an old house. susan and I are walking up to our jeep, parked on the
shoulder. she is expecting me to drive as usual, but I give her the
keys instead and climb up into the passenger seat. we are ready to
return home after a long journey of several weeks. our relationship
had been on the edge of disintegration until this vacation, where we
managed to make the thousand little special compromises to each other
so now things were going good again for us. getting away from the
grind, being constantly with friends, seeing new things for the first
time-- these things had all worked their magic to renew the tie that
binds. personally, I am feeling much better now like some
existential crisis had passed without the need for a blowup.
susan comes around the left side of the jeep. but instead of
climbing into the driver's seat, she starts the engine while standing
on the running board, unlocks the parking brake, and puts the car in
gear. once the car starts forward, she swings into the seat and does
up her safety belt and starts driving.
"I hope you do not drive like that all the time." I say to her. it
did not seem like a very secure way to start off.
"it helps in reaching that emergency brake." she replies
nonchalantly.
when we come down the small hill that leads to new carlisle pike, I
see some giant oak trees standing alone in a field to the right.
along the trunk fairly high up, I see a series of silent eruptions of
smoke puff out in sequence. hm, I wonder what would make that
happen. I can think of no woodland creature that would cause dust
and smoke to burst out of a tree trunk. then I see the massive dead
branch on the other side of the tree slowly start to sag and fall to
the ground. tree surgeons must have set small explosive charges to
prune the dead branch. no sooner does the dead part hit the ground
than I can see that too much of the trunk was removed, so now the
living top of the tree begins a graceful descent to the earth. I am
sad to see only the massive trunk, now without any branches pointing
up to the sky. that tree must have been 500 years old and has now
been butchered. as susan makes the turn onto the pike, I can see
several other trees similarly destroyed farther down.
"oh, did you see that tree fall?" I point to the settling timber
behind us. she is too busy to look
back.
"you know my friend judy barnhill once wrote a poem I liked about the
demize of natural things. it goes something like this. 'slowly the
southern sea slips silently south...'" she is concentrating so hard
on remembering these words that she drives by the turn down kendig
road to our house. I do not comment on her driving, as she can go
around the block from the other direction. she may have some other
errand in mind. I am in no hurry to return to our usual life and
neither is she it seems.
when we do get home, I sit down at the kitchen table in the farmhouse
and drink a glass of ice tea which I had left in a pitcher in the
fridge. susan is talking to one of her friends on the telephone while
she prepares a mug of cold beer. she usually does not drink my
homebrew unless she is preparing for something special with me. she
sets the mug down in front of me and continues talking to whoever on
the phone. I drink the small mug of beer down quickly and feel a
slight wooze go through my forehead. cannot drink like I used to I
guess. I put the heel of the cold glass bottle against my forehead.
it feels good to concentrate on the cold spot. I wish she would get
off the phone so we can start whatever special she has in mind.
=( I wake at 08:31 feeling pretty good. it is a dark rainy Saturday
morning as el nino storms pour more water on us. susan and I lived
together briefly in ohio before moving to massachusetts, but not on
kendig road. my mother's friend rosie lived in that farm house. I
think there was a judy barnhill in our high school, but I never
really knew her. maybe susan did, I do not recall. the fields at
the corner of union road and new carlisle pike do not have any giant
oak trees, just open pasture. the ruins of that old house is where
susan first wanted a sexual encounter with me, or so she later told
me. I had no idea at the time. )=
**Dream: Of Loss and Longing by Stan K. (980308)**
DATE : 1 mar 1998 06:50 DREAM : of loss and longing
=( a typical Saturday night. a couple videos, low level tinkering on
the computer. to sleep around 02:00 after some reading. )=
just north of new carlisle ohio, the open farmlands stretch in all
directions, as if endless. I am flying in over them, low altitude,
getting a close topographic view of each slight rise and dip in the
curvature of the land.
it is early spring. the fields have been turned by the plow several
times, waiting the seed drills. fresh barren earth. row upon row
furrowed in parallel across field after field. I swoop low enough to
almost feel the perfect loose soil, soon to be the bed of so many
crops.
I soon recognize the fields belonging to lester studebaker, my once
father in law. this rectangle of land then that, each he knew like
a part of himself. a couple long triangles gouged into the earth,
shaped oddly by a long road vectoring across the otherwise orderly
patchwork of fields. here I can see the small section of bottomland
which has the problem of getting too wet and collecting runoff.
here, the section reserved for the truck garden of noncommercial
crops, grown for direct family consumption rather than the row upon
row of corn or soybeans grown for sale. the smell of the earth is
strong and musty as I near the pasturage surrounding his farm house.
in order to arrive at the house, I cannot just fly in as I am now.
out of the air around me, a motorcycle begins to form by some
mystical cohesion of molecules. it will be my honda shadow then it
grows complete. my body shifts form the prone flying position to sit
upright on the bike when it solidifies under me. as I approach the
house and barn, the wheels of the motorcycle finally touch down on
the pavement, the engine already running at cruising rpm. the street
around the farm house has less than a dozen cars and pickup trucks
parked around it. I pull over between a couple of them opposite the
house and turn off the motorcycle.
but my panoramic view of the terrain does not stop with the parking
of the bike. instead now, my vision takes an architectural tour of
the small farm house, starting with the formal living room at the far
end with the master bedroom on the side, then the dining room, its
long table set for a large dinner. a quick swirl up the stairs
through the attic rooms where the girls grew up, then back the formal
entry hall with its glass display cabinets of antique dishware.
people from the studebaker family are collecting now as my vision,
rather than myself, continues this layout tour. off the dining room
is the small television room, once a pantry I suspect. then into the
kitchen where a turkey is roasting slowly in the oven. more people
are gathered here and out the side door through the porch and cloak
room. more of the family are standing in the side yard, looking
toward me as my vision returns to my body which is now crossing the
street to join them. the motorcycle, now parked, crackles with
passive heat exhaustion behind me.
janet, my former wife, is standing with some of her relatives in the
yard. she looks my way with a cold uninviting stare. I can hardly be
welcome here after all these years. many of the other people also
look at me with open hostility barely guarded. she looks good, like
she is still in her thirties, even though I never knew her then. I
feel every bit of fifty now, standing there across from her. I walk
past them into the house, saying hello to her as I pass by. she says
nothing in reply, her eyes fixed on me like daggers. I deserve this.
inside, I mingle with the guests, but do not associate with any group
of them. a few of the in laws, married into the family, do not
really know me and so do not have the history of my failures to
project back at me. it does not matter. I feel that I am here to
atone somewhat for my behavior when I was young and not wise enough
to discriminate the future. I must bear whatever recriminations they
cash upon me. it is fair and just.
as I stand in this melancholy reverie, reflecting on the
disappointments I caused, janet comes up to me. she now has a
tentative look on her. still the edge of hostility in her eye, but
it is softening as I stand there. the other people in the hallway
with the china cabinets seem to sense something and move away,
leaving us alone.
"how have you been?" she asks me after all these years.
"alright." I answer, finding my voice difficult to regulate. "living
alone these last ten years has taught me what I needed to learn now
that it is too late to matter." I make a sour smirk of irony. it
has actually been closer to twenty years. still all those decisions
made when we are young now pile up on me. each one seemed necessary
if not right at the time, but I feel like I washed up on some
unexpected shore, dry and empty.
she turns and looks at our reflections it the glass of the cabinets.
she moves slightly so her image looks beside mine even though she is
no closer to me. "we always looked like we belonged together."
janet observed in a quiet voice.
"yes, we had that." I agree.
I feel a longing to hold her in my arms once more, as if all the
years would somehow wash away. but I know it would not be right.
outside there is a stir among the guests. another man has arrived,
also on a motorcycle. I know it is time for me to leave. I look at
her once more, giving her a chance to say whatever she wants to me.
janet just looks through me with sad eyes. it seems her life has
been as broken as mine, but she made better of it.
outside, I take up the helmet off the sissy bar and lash it under my
jaw. whoever the other man is, he is expected with more anticipation
now that I am leaving.
=( I wake around 06:15, just before a couple brief power failures
cause the ups to beep. this seemed like a very long dream, much
longer than the writing of it indicates. I suppose it was the down
emotions which were so heavy rather than the imagery. the flying
scenes at the beginning almost seem like I was sucked there by my
karma rather than traveling under my own power. it has been
cathartic if nothing else. )=
stankuli@gulf.net
=== qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit |
| who not is today, tomorrow less suitable will be ---
-- Ovid _Remedia Amoris_ I 94
== Commentary by Heratheta on jeep drm,flyng drm,couch drm,mall drm
(980312) ==
jeep dream-avoiding "instead" in yourself and others to the right or
left of the jeep when you awoke would have been a peaceful way to
proceed with your life following this dream until the next dream
flying dream-avoiding 'low" to the left or right of the fields when
you awoke would have helped world peace as it would have with those
flyers in italy some time ago
couch dream-avoiding :"really" in yourself and others to the right or
left of granny's couch when you awoke would have led you to peace.
mall dream-not becoming something you or others "didn't remember" to
the right or left of the mall when you awoke would have led you to
peace.
listening to the ballad of the "wild colonial boy" as st. patrick's
day is near I wonder what his dreams were like. jack duggan, we
hardly knew ye.
** Dream: this little piggy will by ? (980309)**
Dream Title: this little piggy will
Date of Dream: February 1998
me and this guy I like were sitting on the couch at my grandmothers
house. he had on red courduroy overalls and I really liked them so I
asked him to let me borrow them. he took them off and he had on a
white t-shirt and some worn in levi's with the back pockets ripped
off. suddenly he was laying upside down on the couch on his stomach.
I was sitting on the top of the couch between his legs. I started
playing this little piggy.... on both of his feet. when I got to the
weee weee weee part I weee weee weeed all the way up his leg and to
his armpits tickling him. then we both started laughing really hard
and we fell on the floor together still laughing. it was great!!!!
Comments by Dreamer i'm not sure what I think. I know we were
having lots of fun in my dream. we were really happy
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments
Permission Comments publish my dream and get comments do not
give out other info.
** Dream: The Party by molasses (980320) **
Dream Title: The Party- molasses
Date of Dream: 3/15/98
Dreamed I was at a party with a friend. It was mostly men, a few
women. A game was going to be played. People had to sit on stacks of
boxes of cookies. My friend seated himself. I could see all types of
cookies through the cellophane windows in the boxes. Next he put his
hands behind his back. I was supposed to bind his wrists with duct
tape. I said "Are you sure you want me to do this?" Then he looked
unhappy and confused and the dream ended.
Comments by Dreamer This is second or third dream involving this
friend and a party situation.
Permission to Comment yes_share_comments
RELIGIOUS RELATED [The Ritual and the Spiritual]
ROMANCE [Thrills and Chills, lost in another]
SCHOOL THEMES [Learning and learning related trials]
SOLUTIONS [The answers to problems or quandaries]
STAIRS [Bridges between levels, between the upper and the lower]
TEETH [Ok, losing teeth is one of the top ten dreams people have
questions on. Theories on what they mean range all over the
spectrum of possibilities.]
TORNADOS [Pretty well defined destructive power of nature]
TRAPPED [Temporarily helpless- Sometimes we are paralyzed or
imprisoned by jobs, relationships or expectations]
VEHICLES [Means of transportation, reflection of lifestyle]
(See Dreambat's African Queen like boat under JOURNEY and Stan K's
Jeep manuevers and Motorcycle movements under RELATIONSHIPS)
WATER [A magical earthly fluid, nourishment, cleansing]
(See Dreambat's Down The River dip into a current under JOURNEY'S)
WORKPLACE [Where we make a living]
WRITING & WRITERS [Communication and creativity]
= = = = = = = = = = = ==
DREAM SERIES
(Dream's from Sweden - A personal collection by BN)
**Dream Series Dreams from Sweden by BN" (980305)**
Hello, my name is BN and I lives in Malm, Sweden. The nine
dreams is separated from each other, but it's a period of four
years. I have been written an diary over my dreams a long time. But
not until I was 30 years old, the dreams changed content and I began
to see colours, hear voices and sound, much like this reality, but
it's a dream. The games and the events that are taking place and are
shown up by the unconscious are intricate and also an exciting
phenomenon. My own searching and to understand my dreams have come
from Carl. G. Jung's books. I gladly share these dreams with others
and if you are interested of to publish some of them. please do.
With best regards from BN
Email: gaiety@algonet.se
(After 980501 the email is changing to gaiety@mail.bip.net (this
address are already in function.)
Dream 1: The Stone People
Meet the stone people, their village was shaped as an circle and in
verge of this circle there was statues and sculptures that changed
itself when I turned me around in the circle. Lizards, turtles and
statues of women in black. The people didn't want to have worldly
things into their society, so I have to leave my belongings in a
stone, outside a gate. That was a drawing pad, water-colours, brushes
and a pocket book. I thought hitchhike back.
What's interesting in this dream are that the statues is moving, I
had a previous dream where the statues was stiffed.
Turtle - our vulnerable feelings or trauma that hides itself beneath
an defensive shell, maybe of shyness, introspectiveness or life in
retirement - can be anger.
Circle; Entity, intimate a concord between all part of us,
physically, mentally and spiritual life; can be used in order to
reproduce the self image; female sexuality.
Black; the unconscious, unknown, the hidden part; the non acceptance
of self image; to not be conscious; depression; fear; dead. Too the
earthly, or source to life and maturity. That as hidden in the
unconscious or in the body can be an tremendous source to alteration,
transformation.
Black animals; unconscious instinct and needs.
Stone; reality but not just physical reality; the physical reality;
the eternal as it will be met of our wakefulness; stability; a
reminder about something or anyone that means very much for us.
A carved stone; what life have realize in order to enrich our
spiritual and eternal nature. Stones symbolize too; duration,
reliability, immortality, imperishable, the eternal, the
indivisible, the highest reality imperishable. Staticly life.
Dream 2. I searches after the eternal stone, the eternal city, the
universe, the eternal diamond. Searches in a wild hunting at all the
places I have been on and lived. Undefinable dangers as all along
cheats, entices and misleads. When I at last find the sparkling
diamond and senses and views it in my palm, I see the gateway to the
unknown, but I also want that my companion shall follow with. It's a
summer evening. The companion is a monk but with its hood latent over
his face and he comes walking, far, far away in the fields. I jump up
and down, yells at the monk "hurry on." But the monk displays no
hurry.
Dream 3. The Organic Light Tunnel
I sat in front of a desk, behind sat a man in an jacket, an
scientist. He asked me if the light was organic or tertiary. I said
organic after much thinking. Then he let me out in another time, the
middle ages. The street was paving in pattern. In a house lived a man
that worshipped the sun and inside the city was an big well, in
middle of the well was a fountain. People threw in things or
themselves into the water, so occasionally was the water just mud. A
man climbed up from the well and he wear out the right eye since it
was rotten. Then he began to discuss its experiences.
Mud; the fundamental, ancient, sensual, muddy ground for the life
and our relationship to feelings that receives us to feel that we
sitting firm, the past experiences as can hold us back but that means
a huge ability to maturity, the body and its minerals healing
ability.
Eye; how we views on the world and ourselves. The loss of eyesight
on right eye; to not see what happens in the external the world.
Fountain; process of life, consciousness stream towards attention,
delight to the collective life.
Dream 4. Immaterial Creatures
I created immaterial creatures that in its turn created beings and in
its turn created beings. They were lighting points, transparent,
ethereal and alleviated. Several universe was born all along
Dream 5. A Fight
The dreams deals with a fight, a struggle to survive. A figure both
female and masculine, they transformed themselves and went into my
soul. I felt that, if I not win this struggle I never will be free
again. It deals with the time, the time were both eternal and not
eternal. Course of events went on both in the room and outside the
room, an ancient room and a ultramodern room. In the end of the dream
I lies on my stomach and views red, black and dark colours. It felt
as though I won the struggle towards the creatures.
Dream 6. My Sister and Rain
I meet my sister and she seemed very happy. She grabbed my arm and we
began run forth. She says that we shall buy shrimps in
confectioner's and other good things to eat. It begins to rain and
the rains yet more and suddenly becomes the area I stands on, a ice
lake, there people lives. I'm barefoot and transfer me forth on my
feet and there I go is lot of houses. In front of one house have an
old lady fall down and she don't come up, so I helps her. It have
become late afternoon but the sun haven't got truly down. When I have
helped the old lady inside the house, she shows me small embroiders
pictures that originally comes from a ship. I says "Is it nothing
more to see." She fetch then a purse by model older and when she
opens it, rise the fumes out from the purse. "Use this with your
reason, she says"
Dream 7. The Estate Owner
Dreams about a estate owner that closed the gate to its property's. I
became angry on the man. Then I dream about a house, an ancient house
that is renovated. Get a experiences of a octagon house, almost a
circle. Part of the walls are brightly blue with mural paintings.
Carpenter and painters builds and restores. It's muddled but it feels
good to be there. A renovation that keeps the old but in new tapping.
I'm very sensible of beings in the room, it's old women's.
Octagon, eight are the number for regeneration, in a sacral
architecture can an octagon structure bear an dome and there by
constitute intermediate stage from a square to circle.
Dream 8. The Lizard on my Elbow
A lizard that sat on my elbow, the tail lay on the forearm toward my
hand, the head immediately above the elbow. It was absolutely not be
taken off, for then I would die. The lizard had a skin that was
brown-black and lustrous.
Left arm: are the supporting actives. The lizard are our fundamentala
reactions from spinal cord and basal brain, as a struggle or escape,
reproduction, attraction, repulsive, sexual instinct, needs of food
and painthreshold. This includes ability to alteration and the
instinct to survive - very powerful and ancient processes. Our
relationship to the reptile in our dreams expresses our conjunction
with such powers within us and how we deals with impulses from the
old portion of the brain.
Lizard; Generally are a lizard almost as a snake, disregard from that
it lacks the poisonous aspect; consciousness about unconscious or
instinctive instinct, functions and processes; the lizard is also a
moon animal, dampness principle.
Dream 9. The Barn and The Threat
Dreamed about a barn and there was a threat. The threat was terrible,
more worse than a atomic bomb effect, worse than plague, starvation
and dead. I manage to flee down to people so that they could phone
to the police. All took protection in a house with glassed-in roof.
The threat destroyed everything in its way and suddenly can I see the
threat. The threat are on the roof as a shadow and I realizes that,
the threat do not become dangerously if I find out what it is. I says
to the police to not fire and decides me, in order to see were the
threat takes its way. Goes in to the woods, to a cottage. On this
garden was all possible things, old automobiles, timber, animals and
hens. I see a man that repair an autocycle and I knows that he is
the threat in the barn. Then we goes besides each other on a way,
talking and the feeling is a calmness.
== Commentary by Heratheta on Sweden's drm & serpent drm (980307)==
Sweden's drms: in each case the enquoted word was the conflict which
needed to be avoided and the following word was the location which
from where these dreams were dreamt pointed indirectly to peace being
to the left or right of them for the time following these dreams unto
the following dreams. details at www.dreamgate.com./dream/dubetz/
1"when"stone people
2"displats"monk
3"much"desk
4"created"creatures
5"struggling" androgenoid
6"seemed"sister
7"angered"gate
8"would"lizard
9"terrible"barn
Sweden dreams are real, only thinner real. when we follow the dream
we lose soul to an existence most people ignore as bad food at best.
see jung's transcendent function.
horned serpent dream see above www for "floating"fisherman.
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Volume 5 Number 3. Thanks for reading. Send in your dreams and
commentary for our next issue ED 5.4 April 1998.
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